Talk:Cherry Bomb - Revision history

imported>Margotbean: /* Damage */

2023-09-03T15:20:08Z

Damage

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	:It would be best if you could provide a code reference rather than in-game testing. If we can find the code, then we can mention all the variables that increase or decrease bomb damage, which would be best. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:49, 31 August 2023 (UTC)		:It would be best if you could provide a code reference rather than in-game testing. If we can find the code, then we can mention all the variables that increase or decrease bomb damage, which would be best. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:49, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
	::Sorry - referring to [[defense]] provided by boots/rings/buffs. I basically took more damage when I took the boots off. I'm not a C++ dev and I don't even have an IDE so that's not as much of an option for me. I regret that I can't get the best values, which is why I posted it for discussion/validation first. But I think this is useful information to have, especially because the item's in-game description warns you not to stand in it (Stand back!/Watch out!/Use with extreme caution) and the current revision of [[Mega Bomb]] has a line warning you to bring extra healing items; so much so to an extent that isn't really reflected in the actual danger of passing out during game play. [[User:Techhead7890\|Techhead7890]] ([[User talk:Techhead7890\|talk]]) 06:43, 3 September 2023 (UTC)		::Sorry - referring to [[defense]] provided by boots/rings/buffs. I basically took more damage when I took the boots off. I'm not a C++ dev and I don't even have an IDE so that's not as much of an option for me. I regret that I can't get the best values, which is why I posted it for discussion/validation first. But I think this is useful information to have, especially because the item's in-game description warns you not to stand in it (Stand back!/Watch out!/Use with extreme caution) and the current revision of [[Mega Bomb]] has a line warning you to bring extra healing items; so much so to an extent that isn't really reflected in the actual danger of passing out during game play. [[User:Techhead7890\|Techhead7890]] ([[User talk:Techhead7890\|talk]]) 06:43, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
			:::Well, there's a simple solution to this problem. When your in-game testing is done, create a "Bomb Damage" section on each page that reports your results, and mention that the results are based on in-game testing. Easy peasy. If someone finds the game code, they can refine the section. If they find very different in-game behavior (which I don't expect, but you never now), they can report their results here on this talk page, and we can investigate the cause(s). :) [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

imported>Techhead7890: /* Damage */ reply/clarification to margot

2023-09-03T06:43:56Z

Damage: reply/clarification to margot

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	:What armor are you using? The breastplates tailored from metal bars? I'm confused.		:What armor are you using? The breastplates tailored from metal bars? I'm confused.
	:It would be best if you could provide a code reference rather than in-game testing. If we can find the code, then we can mention all the variables that increase or decrease bomb damage, which would be best. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:49, 31 August 2023 (UTC)		:It would be best if you could provide a code reference rather than in-game testing. If we can find the code, then we can mention all the variables that increase or decrease bomb damage, which would be best. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:49, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
			::Sorry - referring to [[defense]] provided by boots/rings/buffs. I basically took more damage when I took the boots off. I'm not a C++ dev and I don't even have an IDE so that's not as much of an option for me. I regret that I can't get the best values, which is why I posted it for discussion/validation first. But I think this is useful information to have, especially because the item's in-game description warns you not to stand in it (Stand back!/Watch out!/Use with extreme caution) and the current revision of [[Mega Bomb]] has a line warning you to bring extra healing items; so much so to an extent that isn't really reflected in the actual danger of passing out during game play. [[User:Techhead7890\|Techhead7890]] ([[User talk:Techhead7890\|talk]]) 06:43, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

imported>Margotbean at 15:49, 31 August 2023

2023-08-31T15:49:21Z

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	==Damage==		==Damage==
	Just tested recently - deals 8-9 damage to the player and about 20-30 damage to enemies (post F120 buffs). Player damage is reduced by armor to a minimum of 1.		Just tested recently - deals 8-9 damage to the player and about 20-30 damage to enemies (post F120 buffs). Player damage is reduced by armor to a minimum of 1.

	Incidentally, regulars [[Bomb]]s do around 14-16 base player damage and about 40 damage to enemies, [[Mega Bomb]]s did around 18 base to the player. I want to retest some stuff (including the mega bomb damage to mobs) before I make a series of edits, although of course if anyone else has their own data please go ahead. Overall bombs are quite easily survivable for the player, and tbh it was a lot less damage than I was expecting. [[User:Techhead7890\|Techhead7890]] ([[User talk:Techhead7890\|talk]]) 04:27, 31 August 2023 (UTC)		Incidentally, regulars [[Bomb]]s do around 14-16 base player damage and about 40 damage to enemies, [[Mega Bomb]]s did around 18 base to the player. I want to retest some stuff (including the mega bomb damage to mobs) before I make a series of edits, although of course if anyone else has their own data please go ahead. Overall bombs are quite easily survivable for the player, and tbh it was a lot less damage than I was expecting. [[User:Techhead7890\|Techhead7890]] ([[User talk:Techhead7890\|talk]]) 04:27, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
			:What armor are you using? The breastplates tailored from metal bars? I'm confused.
			:It would be best if you could provide a code reference rather than in-game testing. If we can find the code, then we can mention all the variables that increase or decrease bomb damage, which would be best. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:49, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

imported>Techhead7890: bomb damage numbers

2023-08-31T04:27:31Z

bomb damage numbers

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==Damage==
Just tested recently - deals 8-9 damage to the player and about 20-30 damage to enemies (post F120 buffs). Player damage is reduced by armor to a minimum of 1.

Incidentally, regulars [[Bomb]]s do around 14-16 base player damage and about 40 damage to enemies, [[Mega Bomb]]s did around 18 base to the player. I want to retest some stuff (including the mega bomb damage to mobs) before I make a series of edits, although of course if anyone else has their own data please go ahead. Overall bombs are quite easily survivable for the player, and tbh it was a lot less damage than I was expecting. [[User:Techhead7890|Techhead7890]] ([[User talk:Techhead7890|talk]]) 04:27, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

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	:It would be best if you could provide a code reference rather than in-game testing. If we can find the code, then we can mention all the variables that increase or decrease bomb damage, which would be best. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:49, 31 August 2023 (UTC)		:It would be best if you could provide a code reference rather than in-game testing. If we can find the code, then we can mention all the variables that increase or decrease bomb damage, which would be best. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:49, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
	::Sorry - referring to [[defense]] provided by boots/rings/buffs. I basically took more damage when I took the boots off. I'm not a C++ dev and I don't even have an IDE so that's not as much of an option for me. I regret that I can't get the best values, which is why I posted it for discussion/validation first. But I think this is useful information to have, especially because the item's in-game description warns you not to stand in it (Stand back!/Watch out!/Use with extreme caution) and the current revision of [[Mega Bomb]] has a line warning you to bring extra healing items; so much so to an extent that isn't really reflected in the actual danger of passing out during game play. [[User:Techhead7890\|Techhead7890]] ([[User talk:Techhead7890\|talk]]) 06:43, 3 September 2023 (UTC)		::Sorry - referring to [[defense]] provided by boots/rings/buffs. I basically took more damage when I took the boots off. I'm not a C++ dev and I don't even have an IDE so that's not as much of an option for me. I regret that I can't get the best values, which is why I posted it for discussion/validation first. But I think this is useful information to have, especially because the item's in-game description warns you not to stand in it (Stand back!/Watch out!/Use with extreme caution) and the current revision of [[Mega Bomb]] has a line warning you to bring extra healing items; so much so to an extent that isn't really reflected in the actual danger of passing out during game play. [[User:Techhead7890\|Techhead7890]] ([[User talk:Techhead7890\|talk]]) 06:43, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
			:::Well, there's a simple solution to this problem. When your in-game testing is done, create a "Bomb Damage" section on each page that reports your results, and mention that the results are based on in-game testing. Easy peasy. If someone finds the game code, they can refine the section. If they find very different in-game behavior (which I don't expect, but you never now), they can report their results here on this talk page, and we can investigate the cause(s). :) [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)