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imported>Cheese80 at 08:00, 4 June 2025

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	=== Deluxe Fertilizer Table ===		== Deluxe Fertilizer Table ==
	I'm testing the formulas given for crop quality chance for my own personal Stardew Valley spreadsheet. The values in the table for Deluxe fertilizer do not match the formulas given for calculating the chance. The values begin to diverge for me most notably at farming level 3. I calculate 16% Iridium, 27% Gold, 39% Silver, and 18% Regular. Starting with Iridium and working down to regular, I'm curious how the table gets 21% for Regular using the formulas given.		I'm testing the formulas given for crop quality chance for my own personal Stardew Valley spreadsheet. The values in the table for Deluxe fertilizer do not match the formulas given for calculating the chance. The values begin to diverge for me most notably at farming level 3. I calculate 16% Iridium, 27% Gold, 39% Silver, and 18% Regular. Starting with Iridium and working down to regular, I'm curious how the table gets 21% for Regular using the formulas given.

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	=== Farming level 14? ===		== Farming level 14? ==
	The page states "Note that it is possible to reach Farming level 11-14 with buffs from Food." But the highest level farming buff is +3 ( 10 natural levels + 3 buff /= 14 levels) and all the listed meals are solid meals (no drinks), so can't be additive. The chef at the desert festival also doesn't make farming buff food, so I'm wondering where the level 14 is coming from. Since all of the tables go to 14 I assume there is some other way to get that extra level in which case it should be added to this page.		The page states "Note that it is possible to reach Farming level 11-14 with buffs from Food." But the highest level farming buff is +3 ( 10 natural levels + 3 buff /= 14 levels) and all the listed meals are solid meals (no drinks), so can't be additive. The chef at the desert festival also doesn't make farming buff food, so I'm wondering where the level 14 is coming from. Since all of the tables go to 14 I assume there is some other way to get that extra level in which case it should be added to this page.
	[[User:Cvrcek\|Cvrcek]] ([[User talk:Cvrcek\|talk]]) 03:40, 4 June 2025 (UTC)		[[User:Cvrcek\|Cvrcek]] ([[User talk:Cvrcek\|talk]]) 03:40, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
			: I believe the extra level is from Qi Seasoning. There's a sentence mentioning it at the top of the 'Food' section on the page. [[User:Cheese80\|Cheese80]] ([[User talk:Cheese80\|talk]]) 07:59, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

imported>Cvrcek at 03:41, 4 June 2025

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	: BTW, I'm wondering if the exp of [[Qi Fruit]] is 0 according to the formula? [[User:群星之尘\|群星之尘]] ([[User talk:群星之尘\|talk]]) 08:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)		: BTW, I'm wondering if the exp of [[Qi Fruit]] is 0 according to the formula? [[User:群星之尘\|群星之尘]] ([[User talk:群星之尘\|talk]]) 08:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


			=== Farming level 14? ===
			The page states "Note that it is possible to reach Farming level 11-14 with buffs from Food." But the highest level farming buff is +3 ( 10 natural levels + 3 buff /= 14 levels) and all the listed meals are solid meals (no drinks), so can't be additive. The chef at the desert festival also doesn't make farming buff food, so I'm wondering where the level 14 is coming from. Since all of the tables go to 14 I assume there is some other way to get that extra level in which case it should be added to this page.
			[[User:Cvrcek\|Cvrcek]] ([[User talk:Cvrcek\|talk]]) 03:40, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

imported>群星之尘: /* Notation */

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	The formula <samp>XP=\|\|16 × ln(0.018 × PRICE + 1)\|\|</samp> means round everything between the double-pipes to the nearest integer. I've seen ⌊x⌉ and [x] being used for "round to nearest integer" as well. Does anyone have any thoughts about what notation should be used on the wiki? Perhaps providing an explanation instead of relying on symbols would be better? (although this would require changing wording in all 12 languages)... Thoughts? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 21:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)		The formula <samp>XP=\|\|16 × ln(0.018 × PRICE + 1)\|\|</samp> means round everything between the double-pipes to the nearest integer. I've seen ⌊x⌉ and [x] being used for "round to nearest integer" as well. Does anyone have any thoughts about what notation should be used on the wiki? Perhaps providing an explanation instead of relying on symbols would be better? (although this would require changing wording in all 12 languages)... Thoughts? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 21:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

	:I agree with you on the opinion of giving the explanation of the symbol. It is confusing ~~while checking the exp value of each plant~~ because <samp>\|\|x\|\|</samp> is not a well-known symbol for the function "round x to the nearest integer". It is only the number theorists who use the double-pipes to express the same meaning, while this notation is usually used to denote norms in mathematics. When it comes to a better expression, I suggest <samp> floor(x + 0.5) </samp> to make it more readable for programmers.		:I agree with you on the opinion of giving the explanation of the symbol. It is confusing because <samp>\|\|x\|\|</samp> is not a well-known symbol for the function "round x to the nearest integer". It is only the number theorists who use the double-pipes to express the same meaning, while this notation is usually used to denote norms in mathematics. When it comes to a better expression, I suggest <samp> floor(x + 0.5) </samp> to make it more readable for programmers.

	: BTW, I'm wondering if the exp of [[Qi Fruit]] is 0 according to the formula? [[User:群星之尘\|群星之尘]] ([[User talk:群星之尘\|talk]]) 08:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)		: BTW, I'm wondering if the exp of [[Qi Fruit]] is 0 according to the formula? [[User:群星之尘\|群星之尘]] ([[User talk:群星之尘\|talk]]) 08:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

imported>群星之尘: /* Notation */

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	The formula <samp>XP=\|\|16 × ln(0.018 × PRICE + 1)\|\|</samp> means round everything between the double-pipes to the nearest integer. I've seen ⌊x⌉ and [x] being used for "round to nearest integer" as well. Does anyone have any thoughts about what notation should be used on the wiki? Perhaps providing an explanation instead of relying on symbols would be better? (although this would require changing wording in all 12 languages)... Thoughts? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 21:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)		The formula <samp>XP=\|\|16 × ln(0.018 × PRICE + 1)\|\|</samp> means round everything between the double-pipes to the nearest integer. I've seen ⌊x⌉ and [x] being used for "round to nearest integer" as well. Does anyone have any thoughts about what notation should be used on the wiki? Perhaps providing an explanation instead of relying on symbols would be better? (although this would require changing wording in all 12 languages)... Thoughts? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 21:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

			:I agree with you on the opinion of giving the explanation of the symbol. It is confusing while checking the exp value of each plant because <samp>\|\|x\|\|</samp> is not a well-known symbol for the function "round x to the nearest integer". It is only the number theorists who use the double-pipes to express the same meaning, while this notation is usually used to denote norms in mathematics. When it comes to a better expression, I suggest <samp> floor(x + 0.5) </samp> to make it more readable for programmers.

			: BTW, I'm wondering if the exp of [[Qi Fruit]] is 0 according to the formula? [[User:群星之尘\|群星之尘]] ([[User talk:群星之尘\|talk]]) 08:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

imported>Margotbean: Question about symbols, open to discussion

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Question about symbols, open to discussion

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	:Opinions on the value and validity of the information are welcome! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 03:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)		:Opinions on the value and validity of the information are welcome! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 03:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
	::My bad for the edit, thanks for opening the discussion! [[User:Xyrsis\|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis\|talk]]) 06:23, 2 October 2023 (UTC)		::My bad for the edit, thanks for opening the discussion! [[User:Xyrsis\|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis\|talk]]) 06:23, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

			==Notation==
			The formula <samp>XP=\|\|16 × ln(0.018 × PRICE + 1)\|\|</samp> means round everything between the double-pipes to the nearest integer. I've seen ⌊x⌉ and [x] being used for "round to nearest integer" as well. Does anyone have any thoughts about what notation should be used on the wiki? Perhaps providing an explanation instead of relying on symbols would be better? (although this would require changing wording in all 12 languages)... Thoughts? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 21:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

imported>Xyrsis: /* XP per Day */

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XP per Day

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	:<nowiki>*</nowiki>Assumes seed crafted for free from [[Ancient Seed]] Artifact, grown for 3 seasons.</blockquote>		:<nowiki>*</nowiki>Assumes seed crafted for free from [[Ancient Seed]] Artifact, grown for 3 seasons.</blockquote>
	:Opinions on the value and validity of the information are welcome! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 03:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)		:Opinions on the value and validity of the information are welcome! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 03:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
			::My bad for the edit, thanks for opening the discussion! [[User:Xyrsis\|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis\|talk]]) 06:23, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

imported>Margotbean: /* XP per Day */

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	:So, this is the start of a discussion about the value of XP per day. Let's leave the discussion open ''before'' making the edits, please!		:So, this is the start of a discussion about the value of XP per day. Let's leave the discussion open ''before'' making the edits, please!

	Below is a mockup of the proposed section:		:Below is a mockup of the proposed section:
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	<div style="font-size: larger; font-weight: bold;">XP per Day</div>		<div style="font-size: larger; font-weight: bold;">XP per Day</div>

imported>Margotbean: /* XP per Day */ Discuss before editing

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imported>Xyrsis: /* XP per Day */

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	Table added with values from last updated spreadsheet, there are few missing crops' value. To avoid controversy regarding maximum harvest and growing days, I will calculate it based on Crops page Gold per Day value then calculate XP per Day value for it. [[User:Xyrsis\|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis\|talk]]) 23:45, 1 October 2023 (UTC)		Table added with values from last updated spreadsheet, there are few missing crops' value. To avoid controversy regarding maximum harvest and growing days, I will calculate it based on Crops page Gold per Day value then calculate XP per Day value for it. [[User:Xyrsis\|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis\|talk]]) 23:45, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

			Missing xp/d values updated. Please check. [[User:Xyrsis\|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis\|talk]]) 00:35, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

imported>Xyrsis: /* XP per Day */

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	I am going to use your spreadsheets to calculate the XP per day, edit on all crops table is on the way. [[User:Xyrsis\|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis\|talk]]) 09:09, 1 October 2023 (UTC)		I am going to use your spreadsheets to calculate the XP per day, edit on all crops table is on the way. [[User:Xyrsis\|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis\|talk]]) 09:09, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
	This is the spreadsheet I used, [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15zNaPQp-6GwIzm2ucuIkphNpSdECw3cI/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=114495551717477095381&rtpof=true&sd=true spreadsheet].		This is the spreadsheet I used, [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15zNaPQp-6GwIzm2ucuIkphNpSdECw3cI/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=114495551717477095381&rtpof=true&sd=true spreadsheet].

			Table added with values from last updated spreadsheet, there are few missing crops' value. To avoid controversy regarding maximum harvest and growing days, I will calculate it based on Crops page Gold per Day value then calculate XP per Day value for it. [[User:Xyrsis\|Xyrsis]] ([[User talk:Xyrsis\|talk]]) 23:45, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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	The formula <samp>XP=\|\|16 × ln(0.018 × PRICE + 1)\|\|</samp> means round everything between the double-pipes to the nearest integer. I've seen ⌊x⌉ and [x] being used for "round to nearest integer" as well. Does anyone have any thoughts about what notation should be used on the wiki? Perhaps providing an explanation instead of relying on symbols would be better? (although this would require changing wording in all 12 languages)... Thoughts? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 21:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)		The formula <samp>XP=\|\|16 × ln(0.018 × PRICE + 1)\|\|</samp> means round everything between the double-pipes to the nearest integer. I've seen ⌊x⌉ and [x] being used for "round to nearest integer" as well. Does anyone have any thoughts about what notation should be used on the wiki? Perhaps providing an explanation instead of relying on symbols would be better? (although this would require changing wording in all 12 languages)... Thoughts? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 21:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

	:I agree with you on the opinion of giving the explanation of the symbol. It is confusing ~~while checking the exp value of each plant~~ because <samp>\|\|x\|\|</samp> is not a well-known symbol for the function "round x to the nearest integer". It is only the number theorists who use the double-pipes to express the same meaning, while this notation is usually used to denote norms in mathematics. When it comes to a better expression, I suggest <samp> floor(x + 0.5) </samp> to make it more readable for programmers.		:I agree with you on the opinion of giving the explanation of the symbol. It is confusing because <samp>\|\|x\|\|</samp> is not a well-known symbol for the function "round x to the nearest integer". It is only the number theorists who use the double-pipes to express the same meaning, while this notation is usually used to denote norms in mathematics. When it comes to a better expression, I suggest <samp> floor(x + 0.5) </samp> to make it more readable for programmers.

	: BTW, I'm wondering if the exp of [[Qi Fruit]] is 0 according to the formula? [[User:群星之尘\|群星之尘]] ([[User talk:群星之尘\|talk]]) 08:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)		: BTW, I'm wondering if the exp of [[Qi Fruit]] is 0 according to the formula? [[User:群星之尘\|群星之尘]] ([[User talk:群星之尘\|talk]]) 08:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)