Talk:Fruit Trees - Revision history

imported>Aquila zyy: /* "Fruit Tree Fruits" as a Universal-Like Category */

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"Fruit Tree Fruits" as a Universal-Like Category

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	:#When and if ConcernedApe adds another fruit tree whose fruit is neither tropical nor universally liked, all the changes proposed would be obsolete		:#When and if ConcernedApe adds another fruit tree whose fruit is neither tropical nor universally liked, all the changes proposed would be obsolete
	:I have updated Haley's page with the existing terminology, and the [[List of All Gifts]] in English. Thanks for your comment! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:36, 10 September 2026 (UTC)		:I have updated Haley's page with the existing terminology, and the [[List of All Gifts]] in English. Thanks for your comment! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:36, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
			::Hi there! Thanks for the reply.
			::I see. If we are considering all 12 wiki's then the effort is probably not worthwhile.
			::The only concern from me is that we are sort of ''failing open'' here. A player might be surprised to receive a disliked reaction from the four villagers when trying to gift them a Banana or Mango, because they saw the wiki explicitly listing the two fruits as part of the dislike exceptions.
			::The [[Friendship#Universal Likes]] section already excludes Banana and Mango from "Fruit Tree Fruites", but users who only follow the inline-link from each villager's page may not be aware of that rule.
			::Anyway, I understand that there are more to the wiki than technical correctness, so I will not object if that is your final decision. [[User:Aquila zyy\|Aquila zyy]] ([[User talk:Aquila zyy\|talk]]) 17:05, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

imported>Margotbean at 16:37, 10 September 2026

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			:Hello! What you're suggesting is not completely unreasonable, but I'm going to say no for a few reasons:
			:#This proposal would require changing a large number of pages across 12 languages
			:#The pages you mention aren't inaccurate, since Banana & Mango are still fruit
			:#When and if ConcernedApe adds another fruit tree whose fruit is neither tropical nor universally liked, all the changes proposed would be obsolete
			:I have updated Haley's page with the existing terminology, and the [[List of All Gifts]] in English. Thanks for your comment! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:36, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

imported>Aquila zyy: /* "Fruit Tree Fruits" as a Universal-Like Category */ new section

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"Fruit Tree Fruits" as a Universal-Like Category: new section

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	:Fruit Trees have special rules for planting, so I don't think it's a bad thing to have the information on all pages. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)		:Fruit Trees have special rules for planting, so I don't think it's a bad thing to have the information on all pages. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

			== "Fruit Tree Fruits" as a Universal-Like Category ==

			Currently, many articles on this wiki refer to “Fruit Tree Fruits” as a category of universally liked gifts.

			However, the game only treats the six non-tropical fruit tree fruits—Apple, Apricot, Orange, Peach, Pomegranate, and Cherry—as universal likes. Banana and Mango, which were added to this page after the release of 1.5, are not included.

			As a result, the descriptions of disliked gifts on [[Abigail]], [[Jas]], [[Vincent]], and [[Haley]]'s pages are inaccurate. These villagers dislike fruit as a category (category id -79), but the six pre-1.5 fruit tree fruits are individually set to universal likes and therefore override that dislike. Thus, these six fruits are effectively “exceptions to the exceptions.” Banana and Mango do not receive this treatment and remain disliked gifts for these villagers.

			Proposal: Either list the six universally liked fruits individually on the relevant pages, or use the phrase “Non-tropical Fruit Tree Fruits” to distinguish them from Banana and Mango.

			[[User:Aquila zyy\|Aquila zyy]] ([[User talk:Aquila zyy\|talk]]) 16:05, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

imported>Margotbean at 17:19, 17 December 2024

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	As normal crops' seeds' articles (for example [[Parsnip Seeds]]) don't have explanation for common features (but have in [[Crops]] page), so I think we could do the same thing against Fruit Tree related articles. I think it would be helpful to make each article much easier to read.		As normal crops' seeds' articles (for example [[Parsnip Seeds]]) don't have explanation for common features (but have in [[Crops]] page), so I think we could do the same thing against Fruit Tree related articles. I think it would be helpful to make each article much easier to read.
	[[User:Mmtraa7\|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7\|talk]]) 09:52, 17 December 2024 (UTC)		[[User:Mmtraa7\|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7\|talk]]) 09:52, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

			:Fruit Trees have special rules for planting, so I don't think it's a bad thing to have the information on all pages. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

imported>Mmtraa7: /* Duplication with each fruit trees article */ new section

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Duplication with each fruit trees article: new section

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	:::::::Thanks, Margot. No time to return until now, but that gives me a fresh look. Must say that planting and growing are two different things, so I don't see that things are particularly covered already. Fix coming. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 16:51, 6 May 2022 (UTC)		:::::::Thanks, Margot. No time to return until now, but that gives me a fresh look. Must say that planting and growing are two different things, so I don't see that things are particularly covered already. Fix coming. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 16:51, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
	::::::::I am not sure if the edit is 100% correct, as far as i remember, you also can not plant a fruit tree exactly 2 tiles away from a existing common tree, the bug appears no matter if you plant the fruit tree or the common tree first.--[[User:Voidmaster94\|Voidmaster94]] ([[User talk:Voidmaster94\|talk]]) 17:21, 6 May 2022 (UTC)		::::::::I am not sure if the edit is 100% correct, as far as i remember, you also can not plant a fruit tree exactly 2 tiles away from a existing common tree, the bug appears no matter if you plant the fruit tree or the common tree first.--[[User:Voidmaster94\|Voidmaster94]] ([[User talk:Voidmaster94\|talk]]) 17:21, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

			== Duplication with each fruit trees article ==

			Hello,
			Now I noticed that both of this article and each fruit tree article have duplicated explanations. For example, [[Apple Tree]] says:

			:''It can only grow in the center of a 3x3 square, each square of which must be kept completely clear of objects, flooring, and terrain features (including grass). The 3x3 grid must not overlap the 3x3 grid of another Fruit Tree.''

			:''For each full year after maturing, fruit trees will produce higher quality fruit, up to iridium star quality after three years. Note that the 3x3 square around the tree doesn't have to be kept clear once the tree has fully grown.''

			:''If struck by lightning during a storm, a fruit tree will produce Coal for 4 days instead of fruit.''

			These are common feature of all Fruit Trees, so this Fruit Tree page says:

			:''Each Fruit tree must be planted in the center of a clear 3x3 ground area, except that they may be placed next to a permanent structure (i.e., Farmhouse). "Clear" means free of objects, flooring/paths, and terrain features, but not including grass, Seed Spots and artifact spots. The 3x3 clear planting area also must not overlap the 3x3 area of another fruit tree.''

			:''A tree's fruit increases in quality by one star per year of tree age after reaching maturity. Fruit trees will produce silver star fruit after one year, gold after two years, and iridium after three.''

			:''However, during storms, fruit trees can be struck by lightning, causing them to become burnt for 4 days. During this time, they will not produce fruit, but will instead produce coal. After the 4 days are up, they will return to normal.''

			As normal crops' seeds' articles (for example [[Parsnip Seeds]]) don't have explanation for common features (but have in [[Crops]] page), so I think we could do the same thing against Fruit Tree related articles. I think it would be helpful to make each article much easier to read.
			[[User:Mmtraa7\|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7\|talk]]) 09:52, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

imported>Voidmaster94 at 17:21, 6 May 2022

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	::::::That's correct, they should be plantable outside of the 3x3 grid of the fruit sapling. But, it already says that in the 2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence: "The 3x3 area must remain clear of objects, flooring, and terrain features (including grass), except for artifact spots; otherwise the tree will not grow." The bug is that a common tree seed isn't being treated as a normal object and can't be planted outside the 3x3 grid, but is instead treated as a fruit tree sapling that must be planted two tiles away. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:41, 28 April 2022 (UTC)		::::::That's correct, they should be plantable outside of the 3x3 grid of the fruit sapling. But, it already says that in the 2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence: "The 3x3 area must remain clear of objects, flooring, and terrain features (including grass), except for artifact spots; otherwise the tree will not grow." The bug is that a common tree seed isn't being treated as a normal object and can't be planted outside the 3x3 grid, but is instead treated as a fruit tree sapling that must be planted two tiles away. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:41, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
	:::::::Thanks, Margot. No time to return until now, but that gives me a fresh look. Must say that planting and growing are two different things, so I don't see that things are particularly covered already. Fix coming. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 16:51, 6 May 2022 (UTC)		:::::::Thanks, Margot. No time to return until now, but that gives me a fresh look. Must say that planting and growing are two different things, so I don't see that things are particularly covered already. Fix coming. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 16:51, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
			::::::::I am not sure if the edit is 100% correct, as far as i remember, you also can not plant a fruit tree exactly 2 tiles away from a existing common tree, the bug appears no matter if you plant the fruit tree or the common tree first.--[[User:Voidmaster94\|Voidmaster94]] ([[User talk:Voidmaster94\|talk]]) 17:21, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

imported>Giles: /* Too close to a fruit tree */

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	:::::Well, it seems very unclear to me unless we know what the intended behavior is. Do you know that? I don't. I only have a guess: they should be plantable in either order if the common tree would be outside a 3x3 square around the fruit tree. If you can confirm that, I'll give it a try. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)		:::::Well, it seems very unclear to me unless we know what the intended behavior is. Do you know that? I don't. I only have a guess: they should be plantable in either order if the common tree would be outside a 3x3 square around the fruit tree. If you can confirm that, I'll give it a try. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
	::::::That's correct, they should be plantable outside of the 3x3 grid of the fruit sapling. But, it already says that in the 2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence: "The 3x3 area must remain clear of objects, flooring, and terrain features (including grass), except for artifact spots; otherwise the tree will not grow." The bug is that a common tree seed isn't being treated as a normal object and can't be planted outside the 3x3 grid, but is instead treated as a fruit tree sapling that must be planted two tiles away. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:41, 28 April 2022 (UTC)		::::::That's correct, they should be plantable outside of the 3x3 grid of the fruit sapling. But, it already says that in the 2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence: "The 3x3 area must remain clear of objects, flooring, and terrain features (including grass), except for artifact spots; otherwise the tree will not grow." The bug is that a common tree seed isn't being treated as a normal object and can't be planted outside the 3x3 grid, but is instead treated as a fruit tree sapling that must be planted two tiles away. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:41, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
			:::::::Thanks, Margot. No time to return until now, but that gives me a fresh look. Must say that planting and growing are two different things, so I don't see that things are particularly covered already. Fix coming. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 16:51, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

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	::::It seems pretty clear to me, how would you suggest we make it clearer? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)		::::It seems pretty clear to me, how would you suggest we make it clearer? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
	:::::Well, it seems very unclear to me unless we know what the intended behavior is. Do you know that? I don't. I only have a guess: they should be plantable in either order if the common tree would be outside a 3x3 square around the fruit tree. If you can confirm that, I'll give it a try. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)		:::::Well, it seems very unclear to me unless we know what the intended behavior is. Do you know that? I don't. I only have a guess: they should be plantable in either order if the common tree would be outside a 3x3 square around the fruit tree. If you can confirm that, I'll give it a try. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
			::::::That's correct, they should be plantable outside of the 3x3 grid of the fruit sapling. But, it already says that in the 2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence: "The 3x3 area must remain clear of objects, flooring, and terrain features (including grass), except for artifact spots; otherwise the tree will not grow." The bug is that a common tree seed isn't being treated as a normal object and can't be planted outside the 3x3 grid, but is instead treated as a fruit tree sapling that must be planted two tiles away. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:41, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

imported>Giles: /* Too close to a fruit tree */

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	:::As far as i could observe, it doesn't matter if you plant fruit trees or normal trees first, the 5x5 area around a fruit tree can never contain other trees.--[[User:Voidmaster94\|Voidmaster94]] ([[User talk:Voidmaster94\|talk]]) 04:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)		:::As far as i could observe, it doesn't matter if you plant fruit trees or normal trees first, the 5x5 area around a fruit tree can never contain other trees.--[[User:Voidmaster94\|Voidmaster94]] ([[User talk:Voidmaster94\|talk]]) 04:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
	::::It seems pretty clear to me, how would you suggest we make it clearer? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)		::::It seems pretty clear to me, how would you suggest we make it clearer? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
			:::::Well, it seems very unclear to me unless we know what the intended behavior is. Do you know that? I don't. I only have a guess: they should be plantable in either order if the common tree would be outside a 3x3 square around the fruit tree. If you can confirm that, I'll give it a try. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

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	::Voidmaster is very clear about what the current game behavior is. But it is not clear what we should expect the behavior to be, and how that current behavior differs from the expectation. Until now, I had concluded that it should be ok to plant a fruit tree and a common tree with one space between, planting to occur in either order. But the behavior described by Voidmaster is different from any described here before, and different from how I remember the game behavior in v1.4 as well. I do not think it worked as you describe in v1.4, and that something has changed in the v1.5.x timeframe. But I am now at a loss to say just what has changed and how. I cannot run v1.4 - I am on Steam. But regardless of my memory, there are key points missing in the current description, and the recent change has altered the whole orientation of existing text and made it imply something else. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)		::Voidmaster is very clear about what the current game behavior is. But it is not clear what we should expect the behavior to be, and how that current behavior differs from the expectation. Until now, I had concluded that it should be ok to plant a fruit tree and a common tree with one space between, planting to occur in either order. But the behavior described by Voidmaster is different from any described here before, and different from how I remember the game behavior in v1.4 as well. I do not think it worked as you describe in v1.4, and that something has changed in the v1.5.x timeframe. But I am now at a loss to say just what has changed and how. I cannot run v1.4 - I am on Steam. But regardless of my memory, there are key points missing in the current description, and the recent change has altered the whole orientation of existing text and made it imply something else. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
	:::As far as i could observe, it doesn't matter if you plant fruit trees or normal trees first, the 5x5 area around a fruit tree can never contain other trees.--[[User:Voidmaster94\|Voidmaster94]] ([[User talk:Voidmaster94\|talk]]) 04:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)		:::As far as i could observe, it doesn't matter if you plant fruit trees or normal trees first, the 5x5 area around a fruit tree can never contain other trees.--[[User:Voidmaster94\|Voidmaster94]] ([[User talk:Voidmaster94\|talk]]) 04:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
			::::It seems pretty clear to me, how would you suggest we make it clearer? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

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	::::::That's correct, they should be plantable outside of the 3x3 grid of the fruit sapling. But, it already says that in the 2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence: "The 3x3 area must remain clear of objects, flooring, and terrain features (including grass), except for artifact spots; otherwise the tree will not grow." The bug is that a common tree seed isn't being treated as a normal object and can't be planted outside the 3x3 grid, but is instead treated as a fruit tree sapling that must be planted two tiles away. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:41, 28 April 2022 (UTC)		::::::That's correct, they should be plantable outside of the 3x3 grid of the fruit sapling. But, it already says that in the 2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence: "The 3x3 area must remain clear of objects, flooring, and terrain features (including grass), except for artifact spots; otherwise the tree will not grow." The bug is that a common tree seed isn't being treated as a normal object and can't be planted outside the 3x3 grid, but is instead treated as a fruit tree sapling that must be planted two tiles away. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:41, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
	:::::::Thanks, Margot. No time to return until now, but that gives me a fresh look. Must say that planting and growing are two different things, so I don't see that things are particularly covered already. Fix coming. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 16:51, 6 May 2022 (UTC)		:::::::Thanks, Margot. No time to return until now, but that gives me a fresh look. Must say that planting and growing are two different things, so I don't see that things are particularly covered already. Fix coming. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 16:51, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
			::::::::I am not sure if the edit is 100% correct, as far as i remember, you also can not plant a fruit tree exactly 2 tiles away from a existing common tree, the bug appears no matter if you plant the fruit tree or the common tree first.--[[User:Voidmaster94\|Voidmaster94]] ([[User talk:Voidmaster94\|talk]]) 17:21, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

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	:::::Well, it seems very unclear to me unless we know what the intended behavior is. Do you know that? I don't. I only have a guess: they should be plantable in either order if the common tree would be outside a 3x3 square around the fruit tree. If you can confirm that, I'll give it a try. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)		:::::Well, it seems very unclear to me unless we know what the intended behavior is. Do you know that? I don't. I only have a guess: they should be plantable in either order if the common tree would be outside a 3x3 square around the fruit tree. If you can confirm that, I'll give it a try. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
	::::::That's correct, they should be plantable outside of the 3x3 grid of the fruit sapling. But, it already says that in the 2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence: "The 3x3 area must remain clear of objects, flooring, and terrain features (including grass), except for artifact spots; otherwise the tree will not grow." The bug is that a common tree seed isn't being treated as a normal object and can't be planted outside the 3x3 grid, but is instead treated as a fruit tree sapling that must be planted two tiles away. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:41, 28 April 2022 (UTC)		::::::That's correct, they should be plantable outside of the 3x3 grid of the fruit sapling. But, it already says that in the 2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence: "The 3x3 area must remain clear of objects, flooring, and terrain features (including grass), except for artifact spots; otherwise the tree will not grow." The bug is that a common tree seed isn't being treated as a normal object and can't be planted outside the 3x3 grid, but is instead treated as a fruit tree sapling that must be planted two tiles away. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:41, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
			:::::::Thanks, Margot. No time to return until now, but that gives me a fresh look. Must say that planting and growing are two different things, so I don't see that things are particularly covered already. Fix coming. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 16:51, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

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	::::It seems pretty clear to me, how would you suggest we make it clearer? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)		::::It seems pretty clear to me, how would you suggest we make it clearer? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
	:::::Well, it seems very unclear to me unless we know what the intended behavior is. Do you know that? I don't. I only have a guess: they should be plantable in either order if the common tree would be outside a 3x3 square around the fruit tree. If you can confirm that, I'll give it a try. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)		:::::Well, it seems very unclear to me unless we know what the intended behavior is. Do you know that? I don't. I only have a guess: they should be plantable in either order if the common tree would be outside a 3x3 square around the fruit tree. If you can confirm that, I'll give it a try. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
			::::::That's correct, they should be plantable outside of the 3x3 grid of the fruit sapling. But, it already says that in the 2nd paragraph, 2nd sentence: "The 3x3 area must remain clear of objects, flooring, and terrain features (including grass), except for artifact spots; otherwise the tree will not grow." The bug is that a common tree seed isn't being treated as a normal object and can't be planted outside the 3x3 grid, but is instead treated as a fruit tree sapling that must be planted two tiles away. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:41, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

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	:::As far as i could observe, it doesn't matter if you plant fruit trees or normal trees first, the 5x5 area around a fruit tree can never contain other trees.--[[User:Voidmaster94\|Voidmaster94]] ([[User talk:Voidmaster94\|talk]]) 04:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)		:::As far as i could observe, it doesn't matter if you plant fruit trees or normal trees first, the 5x5 area around a fruit tree can never contain other trees.--[[User:Voidmaster94\|Voidmaster94]] ([[User talk:Voidmaster94\|talk]]) 04:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
	::::It seems pretty clear to me, how would you suggest we make it clearer? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)		::::It seems pretty clear to me, how would you suggest we make it clearer? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
			:::::Well, it seems very unclear to me unless we know what the intended behavior is. Do you know that? I don't. I only have a guess: they should be plantable in either order if the common tree would be outside a 3x3 square around the fruit tree. If you can confirm that, I'll give it a try. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

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	::Voidmaster is very clear about what the current game behavior is. But it is not clear what we should expect the behavior to be, and how that current behavior differs from the expectation. Until now, I had concluded that it should be ok to plant a fruit tree and a common tree with one space between, planting to occur in either order. But the behavior described by Voidmaster is different from any described here before, and different from how I remember the game behavior in v1.4 as well. I do not think it worked as you describe in v1.4, and that something has changed in the v1.5.x timeframe. But I am now at a loss to say just what has changed and how. I cannot run v1.4 - I am on Steam. But regardless of my memory, there are key points missing in the current description, and the recent change has altered the whole orientation of existing text and made it imply something else. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)		::Voidmaster is very clear about what the current game behavior is. But it is not clear what we should expect the behavior to be, and how that current behavior differs from the expectation. Until now, I had concluded that it should be ok to plant a fruit tree and a common tree with one space between, planting to occur in either order. But the behavior described by Voidmaster is different from any described here before, and different from how I remember the game behavior in v1.4 as well. I do not think it worked as you describe in v1.4, and that something has changed in the v1.5.x timeframe. But I am now at a loss to say just what has changed and how. I cannot run v1.4 - I am on Steam. But regardless of my memory, there are key points missing in the current description, and the recent change has altered the whole orientation of existing text and made it imply something else. [[User:Giles\|Giles]] ([[User talk:Giles\|talk]]) 21:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
	:::As far as i could observe, it doesn't matter if you plant fruit trees or normal trees first, the 5x5 area around a fruit tree can never contain other trees.--[[User:Voidmaster94\|Voidmaster94]] ([[User talk:Voidmaster94\|talk]]) 04:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)		:::As far as i could observe, it doesn't matter if you plant fruit trees or normal trees first, the 5x5 area around a fruit tree can never contain other trees.--[[User:Voidmaster94\|Voidmaster94]] ([[User talk:Voidmaster94\|talk]]) 04:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
			::::It seems pretty clear to me, how would you suggest we make it clearer? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 16:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)