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imported>Margotbean: add missing signature

2025-08-18T01:42:55Z

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	It's time something was done for this page. Anything. It's been 4+ years. The tables are not legible as-is. Anything is going to be better than this.		It's time something was done for this page. Anything. It's been 4+ years. The tables are not legible as-is. Anything is going to be better than this.

	Or at least add a little memo to players: just keep a Gold Cauliflower from Spring and forget about this event.		Or at least add a little memo to players: just keep a Gold Cauliflower from Spring and forget about this event. --Unsigned post by [[User:NNW1Sp\|NNW1Sp]] 17 August 2025

imported>NNW1Sp: /* Years later and tables are still a mess */ new section

2025-08-17T17:36:42Z

Years later and tables are still a mess: new section

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	::The tables need updated for content before any formatting changes take place. The wiki needs content editors since v1.6. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:27, 1 February 2025 (UTC)		::The tables need updated for content before any formatting changes take place. The wiki needs content editors since v1.6. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:27, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
	:::Out of curiosity, what content is missing from the tables? I'm looking through them now, and it looks like all the new items from 1.6 have been added. [[User:Cheese80\|Cheese80]] ([[User talk:Cheese80\|talk]]) 18:30, 1 February 2025 (UTC)		:::Out of curiosity, what content is missing from the tables? I'm looking through them now, and it looks like all the new items from 1.6 have been added. [[User:Cheese80\|Cheese80]] ([[User talk:Cheese80\|talk]]) 18:30, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

			== Years later and tables are still a mess ==

			It's time something was done for this page. Anything. It's been 4+ years. The tables are not legible as-is. Anything is going to be better than this.

			Or at least add a little memo to players: just keep a Gold Cauliflower from Spring and forget about this event.

imported>Cheese80 at 18:30, 1 February 2025

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	:This definitely looks better than before! The layout of the table could probably be reworked some more, but an improvement is better than letting it stay as it was. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 17:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)		:This definitely looks better than before! The layout of the table could probably be reworked some more, but an improvement is better than letting it stay as it was. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 17:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
	::The tables need updated for content before any formatting changes take place. The wiki needs content editors since v1.6. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:27, 1 February 2025 (UTC)		::The tables need updated for content before any formatting changes take place. The wiki needs content editors since v1.6. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:27, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
			:::Out of curiosity, what content is missing from the tables? I'm looking through them now, and it looks like all the new items from 1.6 have been added. [[User:Cheese80\|Cheese80]] ([[User talk:Cheese80\|talk]]) 18:30, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

imported>Margotbean at 17:28, 1 February 2025

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	:This definitely looks better than before! The layout of the table could probably be reworked some more, but an improvement is better than letting it stay as it was. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 17:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)		:This definitely looks better than before! The layout of the table could probably be reworked some more, but an improvement is better than letting it stay as it was. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 17:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
			::The tables need updated for content before any formatting changes take place. The wiki needs content editors since v1.6. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:27, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

imported>PrincessFelicity: /* Readability */

2025-02-01T17:15:03Z

Readability

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	[[User:Mmtraa7\|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7\|talk]]) 15:59, 1 February 2025 (UTC)		[[User:Mmtraa7\|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7\|talk]]) 15:59, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

			:This definitely looks better than before! The layout of the table could probably be reworked some more, but an improvement is better than letting it stay as it was. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 17:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

imported>Mmtraa7: /* A Suggestion for the lists */

2025-02-01T15:59:49Z

A Suggestion for the lists

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	Of course I can do this job for Wiki!		Of course I can do this job for Wiki!
	I’d be glad if you consider this idea. [[User:Mmtraa7\|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7\|talk]]) 14:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)		I’d be glad if you consider this idea. [[User:Mmtraa7\|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7\|talk]]) 14:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

			==Readability==
			I revised [[Luau#Best Response\|Best Response]] Section as I explained in [[#A Suggestion for the lists]]. I think this makes sense, and contribute to readability XD (I have seen others had mentioned to the problem of readability of this article and too long table, so I believe attempts like this is certainly needed.)

			Anyone has opinions or ideas, please let me know🙇 I am eager to discuss how to solve the problem!

			If we can go with my idea, I would work on other sectons!

			[[User:Mmtraa7\|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7\|talk]]) 15:59, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

imported>Mmtraa7: /* A Suggestion for the lists */

2024-11-30T14:52:46Z

A Suggestion for the lists

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	For example, below is a part of “Best Response - Silver quality “ list:		For example, below is a part of “Best Response - Silver quality “ list:
	[[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Angler]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Blobfish]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Catfish]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Crimsonfish]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Glacierfish]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Glacierfish Jr.]] ….
			''[[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Angler]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Blobfish]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Catfish]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Crimsonfish]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Glacierfish]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Glacierfish Jr.]] …''

	We may change it to simpler style like below:		We may change it to simpler style like below:
	[[Smoked Fish]] ([[Angler]] • [[blobfish]] • [[Catfish]] • [[Crimsonfish]] • [[Glacierfish]] • [[Glacierfish Jr.]]…. )
			''[[Smoked Fish]] ([[Angler]] • [[blobfish]] • [[Catfish]] • [[Crimsonfish]] • [[Glacierfish]] • [[Glacierfish Jr.]]… )''



	This style has many benefits:		This style has many benefits:
	1. Make the list shorter and easy to see.		#Make the list shorter and easy to see.
	2. Remove duplicate words (in this case, we’ll never see so many “Smoked”).		#Remove duplicate words (in this case, we’ll never see so many “Smoked”).
	3. Can jump to both pages, flavored items and original ingredients (now we can go to only Smoked Fish page. But if we choose this style, we can easily go to Smoked Fish page and Angler page).		#Can jump to both pages, flavored items and original ingredients (now we can go to only Smoked Fish page. But if we choose this style, we can easily go to Smoked Fish page and Angler page).
	4. Can gather the same kind items (now Wines are placed dispersed, but using this style we can gather them in one group).		#Can gather the same kind items (now Wines are placed dispersed, but using this style we can gather them in one group).
	5. Be consistent with expressions such as “Roe (any)” or “Jellies (except Qi Fruit)”.		#Be consistent with expressions such as “Roe (any)” or “Jellies (except Qi Fruit)”.

	Of course I can do this job for Wiki!		Of course I can do this job for Wiki!
	I’d be glad if you consider this idea. [[User:Mmtraa7\|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7\|talk]]) 14:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)		I’d be glad if you consider this idea. [[User:Mmtraa7\|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7\|talk]]) 14:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

imported>Mmtraa7: /* A Suggestion for the lists */ new section

2024-11-30T14:51:10Z

A Suggestion for the lists: new section

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	EDIT: As an added benefit it would make the page mod-friendly, as laying down the rules would allow players to check by themselves whether their modded crops and items pass the Luau requirements. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 06:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)		EDIT: As an added benefit it would make the page mod-friendly, as laying down the rules would allow players to check by themselves whether their modded crops and items pass the Luau requirements. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 06:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

			== A Suggestion for the lists ==

			I think it might be a good idea to combine itms in the same group.

			For example, below is a part of “Best Response - Silver quality “ list:
			[[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Angler]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Blobfish]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Catfish]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Crimsonfish]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Glacierfish]] • [[Smoked Fish\|Smoked Glacierfish Jr.]] ….

			We may change it to simpler style like below:
			[[Smoked Fish]] ([[Angler]] • [[blobfish]] • [[Catfish]] • [[Crimsonfish]] • [[Glacierfish]] • [[Glacierfish Jr.]]…. )

			This style has many benefits:
			1. Make the list shorter and easy to see.
			2. Remove duplicate words (in this case, we’ll never see so many “Smoked”).
			3. Can jump to both pages, flavored items and original ingredients (now we can go to only Smoked Fish page. But if we choose this style, we can easily go to Smoked Fish page and Angler page).
			4. Can gather the same kind items (now Wines are placed dispersed, but using this style we can gather them in one group).
			5. Be consistent with expressions such as “Roe (any)” or “Jellies (except Qi Fruit)”.

			Of course I can do this job for Wiki!
			I’d be glad if you consider this idea. [[User:Mmtraa7\|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7\|talk]]) 14:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

imported>PrincessFelicity: /* Is an exhaustive list really the way to go? */

2024-07-15T06:32:41Z

Is an exhaustive list really the way to go?

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	With each update that passes, this page becomes more and more unwieldy to cross-reference. The text wall of possible ingredients for each grade of response is pretty much impossible to parse, and on top of that, updating the page with every game update is a monumental editing task where items are added virtually one at a time as players ''happen'' to try them out. Instead I would suggest that the walls of items be stricken out, and be replaced with a single table that lays out the actual rules the game's code abides by when determining which response to give. That way, even as new forage, crops, edible artisan goods, etc. get added, the page doesn't need edited again, especially if it's going to make it just worse and worse to read. You can mention that the best response is dependent on the item's base price, that this base price can be looked at in-game with the collections tab, and even add practical tips and tricks like "since smoked fish retain their quality and are considered to have a new base price equal to twice that of the original fish, they make for ideal Luau ingredients" instead of the player having to come to that understanding by staring at the tables of responses for so long that they understand its patterns. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 06:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)		With each update that passes, this page becomes more and more unwieldy to cross-reference. The text wall of possible ingredients for each grade of response is pretty much impossible to parse, and on top of that, updating the page with every game update is a monumental editing task where items are added virtually one at a time as players ''happen'' to try them out. Instead I would suggest that the walls of items be stricken out, and be replaced with a single table that lays out the actual rules the game's code abides by when determining which response to give. That way, even as new forage, crops, edible artisan goods, etc. get added, the page doesn't need edited again, especially if it's going to make it just worse and worse to read. You can mention that the best response is dependent on the item's base price, that this base price can be looked at in-game with the collections tab, and even add practical tips and tricks like "since smoked fish retain their quality and are considered to have a new base price equal to twice that of the original fish, they make for ideal Luau ingredients" instead of the player having to come to that understanding by staring at the tables of responses for so long that they understand its patterns. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 06:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

			EDIT: As an added benefit it would make the page mod-friendly, as laying down the rules would allow players to check by themselves whether their modded crops and items pass the Luau requirements. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 06:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

imported>PrincessFelicity: /* Is an exhaustive list really the way to go? */ new section

2024-07-15T06:08:55Z

Is an exhaustive list really the way to go?: new section

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	Since of 1.5 fixing the bug of you being able to add a [[Staircase]] got me thinking: This needs to be fixed ASAP. [[User:9000\|9000]] ([[User talk:9000\|talk]]) 8:58, 13 July 2022 (UTC)		Since of 1.5 fixing the bug of you being able to add a [[Staircase]] got me thinking: This needs to be fixed ASAP. [[User:9000\|9000]] ([[User talk:9000\|talk]]) 8:58, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
	:ConcernedApe doesn't monitor the wiki for bug reports, but you can report the bug on the [https://forums.stardewvalley.net/forums/help-bug-reports-non-modded.12/ Official Forums]. I think it's already been reported, but it doesn't hurt to report it again. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 14:50, 13 July 2022 (UTC)		:ConcernedApe doesn't monitor the wiki for bug reports, but you can report the bug on the [https://forums.stardewvalley.net/forums/help-bug-reports-non-modded.12/ Official Forums]. I think it's already been reported, but it doesn't hurt to report it again. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 14:50, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

			== Is an exhaustive list really the way to go? ==

			With each update that passes, this page becomes more and more unwieldy to cross-reference. The text wall of possible ingredients for each grade of response is pretty much impossible to parse, and on top of that, updating the page with every game update is a monumental editing task where items are added virtually one at a time as players ''happen'' to try them out. Instead I would suggest that the walls of items be stricken out, and be replaced with a single table that lays out the actual rules the game's code abides by when determining which response to give. That way, even as new forage, crops, edible artisan goods, etc. get added, the page doesn't need edited again, especially if it's going to make it just worse and worse to read. You can mention that the best response is dependent on the item's base price, that this base price can be looked at in-game with the collections tab, and even add practical tips and tricks like "since smoked fish retain their quality and are considered to have a new base price equal to twice that of the original fish, they make for ideal Luau ingredients" instead of the player having to come to that understanding by staring at the tables of responses for so long that they understand its patterns. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 06:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

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	:This definitely looks better than before! The layout of the table could probably be reworked some more, but an improvement is better than letting it stay as it was. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 17:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)		:This definitely looks better than before! The layout of the table could probably be reworked some more, but an improvement is better than letting it stay as it was. [[User:PrincessFelicity\|PrincessFelicity]] ([[User talk:PrincessFelicity\|talk]]) 17:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
	::The tables need updated for content before any formatting changes take place. The wiki needs content editors since v1.6. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:27, 1 February 2025 (UTC)		::The tables need updated for content before any formatting changes take place. The wiki needs content editors since v1.6. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:27, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
			:::Out of curiosity, what content is missing from the tables? I'm looking through them now, and it looks like all the new items from 1.6 have been added. [[User:Cheese80\|Cheese80]] ([[User talk:Cheese80\|talk]]) 18:30, 1 February 2025 (UTC)