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	::::I don't think we need an entire subpage to explain randomly-generated quest items, but this is a separate topic. I've asked what is incorrect on the page, and it seems like the gems item is the main issue. I see a couple of foraged minerals in the mix and some gems, so I'll make that change. If anything else is incorrect, please leave a comment here! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:53, 29 August 2026 (UTC)		::::I don't think we need an entire subpage to explain randomly-generated quest items, but this is a separate topic. I've asked what is incorrect on the page, and it seems like the gems item is the main issue. I see a couple of foraged minerals in the mix and some gems, so I'll make that change. If anything else is incorrect, please leave a comment here! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:53, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
	:::::Apologies, I forgot to check back here after putting the whole spiel down—yes, the tweaks to the gem and foragables were precisely what I was looking for. The other thing that might be worth noting is that items found in the Mine may be requested before the Mine opens. [[User:SatyricalSol\|SatyricalSol]] ([[User talk:SatyricalSol\|talk]]) 19:33, 7 September 2026 (UTC)		:::::Apologies, I forgot to check back here after putting the whole spiel down—yes, the tweaks to the gem and foragables were precisely what I was looking for. The other thing that might be worth noting is that items found in the Mine may be requested before the Mine opens. [[User:SatyricalSol\|SatyricalSol]] ([[User talk:SatyricalSol\|talk]]) 19:33, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

	~~== Mayor Lewis's Lucky Purple Shorts ==~~

	So, this quest appeared early in the game. I did not have enough friendship with Marnie (before I found out that I needed it for her recipes) in order to complete this quest or the knowledge of how to craft a staircase and its use. So, I cancelled it. I have placed a staircase in Lewis's room to his basement in order to get the purple shorts. I've been able to navigate the maze, but when I get to the shorts, the path is blocked. Is this because I didn't do the quest? If that's the case, will it ever come back in this save file, or is there a way to trigger it?

imported>SatyricalSol at 19:33, 7 September 2026

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	::::I don't think we need an entire subpage to explain randomly-generated quest items, but this is a separate topic. I've asked what is incorrect on the page, and it seems like the gems item is the main issue. I see a couple of foraged minerals in the mix and some gems, so I'll make that change. If anything else is incorrect, please leave a comment here! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:53, 29 August 2026 (UTC)		::::I don't think we need an entire subpage to explain randomly-generated quest items, but this is a separate topic. I've asked what is incorrect on the page, and it seems like the gems item is the main issue. I see a couple of foraged minerals in the mix and some gems, so I'll make that change. If anything else is incorrect, please leave a comment here! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:53, 29 August 2026 (UTC)
			:::::Apologies, I forgot to check back here after putting the whole spiel down—yes, the tweaks to the gem and foragables were precisely what I was looking for. The other thing that might be worth noting is that items found in the Mine may be requested before the Mine opens. [[User:SatyricalSol\|SatyricalSol]] ([[User talk:SatyricalSol\|talk]]) 19:33, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

	== Mayor Lewis's Lucky Purple Shorts ==		== Mayor Lewis's Lucky Purple Shorts ==

	So, this quest appeared early in the game. I did not have enough friendship with Marnie (before I found out that I needed it for her recipes) in order to complete this quest or the knowledge of how to craft a staircase and its use. So, I cancelled it. I have placed a staircase in Lewis's room to his basement in order to get the purple shorts. I've been able to navigate the maze, but when I get to the shorts, the path is blocked. Is this because I didn't do the quest? If that's the case, will it ever come back in this save file, or is there a way to trigger it?		So, this quest appeared early in the game. I did not have enough friendship with Marnie (before I found out that I needed it for her recipes) in order to complete this quest or the knowledge of how to craft a staircase and its use. So, I cancelled it. I have placed a staircase in Lewis's room to his basement in order to get the purple shorts. I've been able to navigate the maze, but when I get to the shorts, the path is blocked. Is this because I didn't do the quest? If that's the case, will it ever come back in this save file, or is there a way to trigger it?

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Mayor Lewis's Lucky Purple Shorts

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	== Mayor Lewis's Lucky Purple Shorts ==		== Mayor Lewis's Lucky Purple Shorts ==

	So, this quest appeared early in the game. I did not have enough friendship with Marnie (before I found out that I needed it for her recipes) in order to complete this quest or the knowledge of how to craft a staircase and ~~it's~~ use. So, I cancelled it. I have placed a staircase in Lewis's room to his basement in order to get the purple shorts. I've been able to navigate the maze, but when I get to the shorts, the path is blocked. Is this because I didn't do the quest? If that's the case, will it ever come back in this save file, or is there a way to trigger it?		So, this quest appeared early in the game. I did not have enough friendship with Marnie (before I found out that I needed it for her recipes) in order to complete this quest or the knowledge of how to craft a staircase and its use. So, I cancelled it. I have placed a staircase in Lewis's room to his basement in order to get the purple shorts. I've been able to navigate the maze, but when I get to the shorts, the path is blocked. Is this because I didn't do the quest? If that's the case, will it ever come back in this save file, or is there a way to trigger it?

imported>Gingerbread: /* Mayor Lewis's Lucky Purple Shorts */ new section

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	::::I don't think we need an entire subpage to explain randomly-generated quest items, but this is a separate topic. I've asked what is incorrect on the page, and it seems like the gems item is the main issue. I see a couple of foraged minerals in the mix and some gems, so I'll make that change. If anything else is incorrect, please leave a comment here! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:53, 29 August 2026 (UTC)		::::I don't think we need an entire subpage to explain randomly-generated quest items, but this is a separate topic. I've asked what is incorrect on the page, and it seems like the gems item is the main issue. I see a couple of foraged minerals in the mix and some gems, so I'll make that change. If anything else is incorrect, please leave a comment here! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:53, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

			== Mayor Lewis's Lucky Purple Shorts ==

			So, this quest appeared early in the game. I did not have enough friendship with Marnie (before I found out that I needed it for her recipes) in order to complete this quest or the knowledge of how to craft a staircase and it's use. So, I cancelled it. I have placed a staircase in Lewis's room to his basement in order to get the purple shorts. I've been able to navigate the maze, but when I get to the shorts, the path is blocked. Is this because I didn't do the quest? If that's the case, will it ever come back in this save file, or is there a way to trigger it?

imported>Margotbean at 15:53, 29 August 2026

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	:::I have the proposed subpage mostly ready on my userpage, [[User:BridgeSeller/Daily Quests]]. It contains full information on items which can be requested in the Item Delivery quest as well as conditions for each one. It also notes fish requested for Fishing quest and monsters&conditions for Slay Monsters quest. ("Saying Hello" quest is obviously not in need of documenting in detail, while "Gathering" quest's formulas for ore and coal are too random/coomplex to provide any consistent information on). Currently the wiki does not have this info and it would be a nice addition. Each section on the page is sourced, providing the code of origin.		:::I have the proposed subpage mostly ready on my userpage, [[User:BridgeSeller/Daily Quests]]. It contains full information on items which can be requested in the Item Delivery quest as well as conditions for each one. It also notes fish requested for Fishing quest and monsters&conditions for Slay Monsters quest. ("Saying Hello" quest is obviously not in need of documenting in detail, while "Gathering" quest's formulas for ore and coal are too random/coomplex to provide any consistent information on). Currently the wiki does not have this info and it would be a nice addition. Each section on the page is sourced, providing the code of origin.
	:::There are some minor corrections necessary still - "Notes" section needs to be removed, "References" changed from subsection into a section, and more importantly, the header which I do not have a good idea for and will welcome any suggestions for. Other than that, it is ready to be moved (though further suggestions on improving it are still on the table). [[User:BridgeSeller\|BridgeSeller]] ([[User talk:BridgeSeller\|talk]]) 21:06, 28 August 2026 (UTC)		:::There are some minor corrections necessary still - "Notes" section needs to be removed, "References" changed from subsection into a section, and more importantly, the header which I do not have a good idea for and will welcome any suggestions for. Other than that, it is ready to be moved (though further suggestions on improving it are still on the table). [[User:BridgeSeller\|BridgeSeller]] ([[User talk:BridgeSeller\|talk]]) 21:06, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

			::::I don't think we need an entire subpage to explain randomly-generated quest items, but this is a separate topic. I've asked what is incorrect on the page, and it seems like the gems item is the main issue. I see a couple of foraged minerals in the mix and some gems, so I'll make that change. If anything else is incorrect, please leave a comment here! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:53, 29 August 2026 (UTC)

imported>BridgeSeller: /* Gem Delivery Quests */

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Gem Delivery Quests

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	::Thank you for the research and the explanation! So, what needs to be changed on the wiki? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:33, 24 August 2026 (UTC)		::Thank you for the research and the explanation! So, what needs to be changed on the wiki? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:33, 24 August 2026 (UTC)
			:::While the entirety of the mechanics of daily quests would not fit into the current short-form explanation (as there are multiple conditions for various sets of items), I propose correcting the inaccurate part about the gems (something like "Mineral or gem, depending on the floor the player has reached in the Mines.") and providing the full list separately, as a subpage which can be linked before the info table, early in the Types section.
			:::I have the proposed subpage mostly ready on my userpage, [[User:BridgeSeller/Daily Quests]]. It contains full information on items which can be requested in the Item Delivery quest as well as conditions for each one. It also notes fish requested for Fishing quest and monsters&conditions for Slay Monsters quest. ("Saying Hello" quest is obviously not in need of documenting in detail, while "Gathering" quest's formulas for ore and coal are too random/coomplex to provide any consistent information on). Currently the wiki does not have this info and it would be a nice addition. Each section on the page is sourced, providing the code of origin.
			:::There are some minor corrections necessary still - "Notes" section needs to be removed, "References" changed from subsection into a section, and more importantly, the header which I do not have a good idea for and will welcome any suggestions for. Other than that, it is ready to be moved (though further suggestions on improving it are still on the table). [[User:BridgeSeller\|BridgeSeller]] ([[User talk:BridgeSeller\|talk]]) 21:06, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

imported>Margotbean at 15:33, 24 August 2026

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	:If there are more questions I'd be happy to answer!		:If there are more questions I'd be happy to answer!
	:[[User:SatyricalSol\|SatyricalSol]] ([[User talk:SatyricalSol\|talk]]) 01:05, 17 August 2026 (UTC)		:[[User:SatyricalSol\|SatyricalSol]] ([[User talk:SatyricalSol\|talk]]) 01:05, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
			::Thank you for the research and the explanation! So, what needs to be changed on the wiki? [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 15:33, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

imported>SatyricalSol: /* Gem Delivery Quests */

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Gem Delivery Quests

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	:::Having said that, if the explanation of findings on this talk page becomes large, so be it. It's been a point of contention for a while (at least since v1.3), so some amount of explanatory text would be welcome by many, I'm sure.		:::Having said that, if the explanation of findings on this talk page becomes large, so be it. It's been a point of contention for a while (at least since v1.3), so some amount of explanatory text would be welcome by many, I'm sure.
	:::Good luck, and thank you!!! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 19:08, 14 August 2026 (UTC)		:::Good luck, and thank you!!! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 19:08, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
			:So! Here's a deeper dive (I spent the last few days making a mod to tweak most of this logic so I'm very familiar now lmao).
			:We start in the Utility file's getQuestOfTheDay() function; when the random number generated is greater than 0.66 (eg 34% of the time, I think) an Item Delivery Quest is selected.
			:(There's also an extra 6% chance for Item Delivery if you haven't met everyone and thus can't get the "say hi to everyone" quest.)
			:In ItemDeliveryQuest's loadQuestInfo() function, it starts with a 15% chance (if it's not winter) to force a crop request via Utility.possibleCropsAtThisTime() (that function is kind of a disaster but we can cover that later).
			:The other 85%, it uses Utility.getRandomItemFromSeason(), which is our target here. (There's two versions of it but one is just a wrapper that calls the other.)
			:In there, we find it creating the list "options" that will be returned as the list of items to be picked from as the objective of the quest.
			:Immediately off the rip, it unconditionally adds Amethyst, Topaz, Earth Crystal, Cave Carrot, Seaweed, Green Algae, Jojacola, and... red mushroom, for some reason.
			:There's some work done ahead of time for checks like "do you know how to make a furnace so that metal bars can be asked for?" that are done later in the function.
			:Then there's the smoking gun, the if statement posted in the original comment; within that if statement they add the things found on floor 40-80 (Aquamarine, Jade, Diamond, Frozen Tear... also purple mushroom for some reason? that should really be on the floor 80 check).
			:After that is the floor 80 check adding Ruby, Emerald, and Fire Quartz; then the recipe checks like the furnace; and then does a call to Utility.possibleCropsAtThisTime() like above before returning the options list.
			:Odd sidenotes on possibleCropsAtThisTime(): Blueberries and Cranberries aren't asked for until you've unlocked the vault, as though they're desert shop crops? Kale isn't asked for until year 2?
			:They do a check if it's the first week of the season to sort between short-growing crops and long-growing crops, but that doesn't stop a day 2 potato ask or a day 8 cauliflower ask.
			:Genuinely baffling method. It's the only one I completely rewrote from scratch for my mod tweaking the Help Wanted quests, the others are only changed via a handful of lines.
			:If there are more questions I'd be happy to answer!
			:[[User:SatyricalSol\|SatyricalSol]] ([[User talk:SatyricalSol\|talk]]) 01:05, 17 August 2026 (UTC)

imported>Margotbean at 19:08, 14 August 2026

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	::Is that a request for a deeper dive? I'm happy to do so, just didn't want to flood the page in code unbidden. [[User:SatyricalSol\|SatyricalSol]] ([[User talk:SatyricalSol\|talk]]) 18:57, 14 August 2026 (UTC)		::Is that a request for a deeper dive? I'm happy to do so, just didn't want to flood the page in code unbidden. [[User:SatyricalSol\|SatyricalSol]] ([[User talk:SatyricalSol\|talk]]) 18:57, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
			:::A deeper dive would be awesome! Flooding the page with code, however, is not necessary! A summary of how it works would be nice; after that, changing the page with a simple code reference will be more than adequate.
			:::Having said that, if the explanation of findings on this talk page becomes large, so be it. It's been a point of contention for a while (at least since v1.3), so some amount of explanatory text would be welcome by many, I'm sure.
			:::Good luck, and thank you!!! [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 19:08, 14 August 2026 (UTC)

imported>SatyricalSol at 18:58, 14 August 2026

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	:Hmmm... Times like these a step-through of the code would be invaluable. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:59, 14 August 2026 (UTC)		:Hmmm... Times like these a step-through of the code would be invaluable. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:59, 14 August 2026 (UTC)

			::Is that a request for a deeper dive? I'm happy to do so, just didn't want to flood the page in code unbidden. [[User:SatyricalSol\|SatyricalSol]] ([[User talk:SatyricalSol\|talk]]) 18:57, 14 August 2026 (UTC)

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	:Hmmm... Times like these a step-through of the code would be invaluable. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:59, 14 August 2026 (UTC)		:Hmmm... Times like these a step-through of the code would be invaluable. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 17:59, 14 August 2026 (UTC)

			::Is that a request for a deeper dive? I'm happy to do so, just didn't want to flood the page in code unbidden. [[User:SatyricalSol\|SatyricalSol]] ([[User talk:SatyricalSol\|talk]]) 18:57, 14 August 2026 (UTC)