User talk:Margotbean - Revision history

imported>CandyNim at 22:02, 16 October 2026

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	I think it would make more sense to word it either as "All Universal Likes (except Beer, Coffee, Mead, Pale Ale, Piña Colada, Wine, and Cooking)" (recognizing that this technically says that Mango Sticky Rice isn't liked but then gets overwritten by the explicit mention below) or as "All Universal Likes (except Beer, Coffee, Mead, Pale Ale, Piña Colada, Wine, and Cooking other than Mango Sticky Rice)" (recognizing that this makes Mango Sticky Rice show up twice semi-redundantly). I'm biased towards the first one personally, though I see that you previously kept Mango Sticky Rice on the list in revision 120215. [[User:CandyNim\|CandyNim]] ([[User talk:CandyNim\|talk]]) 19:50, 16 October 2026 (UTC)		I think it would make more sense to word it either as "All Universal Likes (except Beer, Coffee, Mead, Pale Ale, Piña Colada, Wine, and Cooking)" (recognizing that this technically says that Mango Sticky Rice isn't liked but then gets overwritten by the explicit mention below) or as "All Universal Likes (except Beer, Coffee, Mead, Pale Ale, Piña Colada, Wine, and Cooking other than Mango Sticky Rice)" (recognizing that this makes Mango Sticky Rice show up twice semi-redundantly). I'm biased towards the first one personally, though I see that you previously kept Mango Sticky Rice on the list in revision 120215. [[User:CandyNim\|CandyNim]] ([[User talk:CandyNim\|talk]]) 19:50, 16 October 2026 (UTC)
	:Hello! Yes, the gift tastes are difficult to parse mentally, but they all suffer from the same issues. A double negative in these cases doesn't mean the two cancel each other, it simply means the villager feels differently about the item, possibly they feel a way that's unspecified in that particular section of their page. So, as a player, you cannot necessarily get the whole picture of their gift preferences unless you check all sections (loved/liked, etc). It's just the complex nature of gifting. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 20:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC)		:Hello! Yes, the gift tastes are difficult to parse mentally, but they all suffer from the same issues. A double negative in these cases doesn't mean the two cancel each other, it simply means the villager feels differently about the item, possibly they feel a way that's unspecified in that particular section of their page. So, as a player, you cannot necessarily get the whole picture of their gift preferences unless you check all sections (loved/liked, etc). It's just the complex nature of gifting. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 20:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC)
			:: If I simplify the sentence by removing a bunch of things, the statement "Leo likes All Universal Likes (except Cooking other than Bread)" communicates to me that Bread is something he likes, rather than saying that "Bread is a universal neutral so it was never part of the category of Universal Likes in the first place". I think the two negatives absolutely cancel themselves out grammatically, and including things in that other-than section that he doesn't like makes it less informative. I feel like removing bread/fried egg/poi/triple shot espresso makes it strictly less confusing and more informative. This list of items already exists in his Dislike section where it goes "All Cooked Dishes (other than Bread, Fried Egg, Mango Sticky Rice, Poi, & Triple Shot Espresso)" which is correct, as all 5 of those items are not disliked.
			:: Again I'm going to use Bread as the example. Is there any benefit to including it in the Likes sentence? A new user reading the Leo page would see Bread mentioned as an exception to the Dislike, and as an exception to the exception of the Universal Likes. It is already currently true that the way to find out whether Leo likes Bread is by checking the Universal Dislikes (or the bread page specifically), but by including it on the list of exceptions just adds a new way to misread it. Trimming down the list to only include Mango Sticky Rice makes it flow substantially better and removes the possibility of misreading. Sure, gift preferences are complicated. But the current wording is needlessly complicated, and could be made simpler via either of the wordings I mentioned above without losing any accuracy (and in my opinion, gaining accuracy, as you're no longer supposed to divine that this is a canceled-double negative for only 1 of the 5 things on the list, and the other 4 things simply badly worded). [[User:CandyNim\|CandyNim]] ([[User talk:CandyNim\|talk]]) 22:02, 16 October 2026 (UTC)

imported>Margotbean at 20:47, 16 October 2026

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	I think it would make more sense to word it either as "All Universal Likes (except Beer, Coffee, Mead, Pale Ale, Piña Colada, Wine, and Cooking)" (recognizing that this technically says that Mango Sticky Rice isn't liked but then gets overwritten by the explicit mention below) or as "All Universal Likes (except Beer, Coffee, Mead, Pale Ale, Piña Colada, Wine, and Cooking other than Mango Sticky Rice)" (recognizing that this makes Mango Sticky Rice show up twice semi-redundantly). I'm biased towards the first one personally, though I see that you previously kept Mango Sticky Rice on the list in revision 120215. [[User:CandyNim\|CandyNim]] ([[User talk:CandyNim\|talk]]) 19:50, 16 October 2026 (UTC)		I think it would make more sense to word it either as "All Universal Likes (except Beer, Coffee, Mead, Pale Ale, Piña Colada, Wine, and Cooking)" (recognizing that this technically says that Mango Sticky Rice isn't liked but then gets overwritten by the explicit mention below) or as "All Universal Likes (except Beer, Coffee, Mead, Pale Ale, Piña Colada, Wine, and Cooking other than Mango Sticky Rice)" (recognizing that this makes Mango Sticky Rice show up twice semi-redundantly). I'm biased towards the first one personally, though I see that you previously kept Mango Sticky Rice on the list in revision 120215. [[User:CandyNim\|CandyNim]] ([[User talk:CandyNim\|talk]]) 19:50, 16 October 2026 (UTC)
			:Hello! Yes, the gift tastes are difficult to parse mentally, but they all suffer from the same issues. A double negative in these cases doesn't mean the two cancel each other, it simply means the villager feels differently about the item, possibly they feel a way that's unspecified in that particular section of their page. So, as a player, you cannot necessarily get the whole picture of their gift preferences unless you check all sections (loved/liked, etc). It's just the complex nature of gifting. [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 20:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC)

imported>CandyNim: Asking for edit advice

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Asking for edit advice

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	: You got an ostrich egg as it was your next unshipped item. [[User:BlaDe\|BlaDe]] ([[User talk:BlaDe\|talk]]) 18:15, 5 October 2026 (UTC)		: You got an ostrich egg as it was your next unshipped item. [[User:BlaDe\|BlaDe]] ([[User talk:BlaDe\|talk]]) 18:15, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
	::Yes, I replied on the editor's talk page, thank you BlaDe, [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 18:30, 5 October 2026 (UTC)		::Yes, I replied on the editor's talk page, thank you BlaDe, [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 18:30, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

			== Awkward Leo like wording ==

			I decided to put this in your talk page because I wasn't sure what the best wording would be. Currently, Leo's Like's states "All Universal Likes (except Beer, Coffee, Mead, Pale Ale, Piña Colada, Wine, and Cooking other than Bread, Fried Egg, Poi, Mango Sticky Rice, & Triple Shot Espresso)". This is difficult to parse and, when parsed correctly, is incorrect. The 5 listed cooking items are under a double negative, suggesting Leo likes them. However, the only one that Leo actually likes is Mango Sticky Rice. Bread+Fried Egg are Universal Neutrals (with Leo following in that trend), Poi is a Leo-loved, and Triple Shot Espresso is a Leo-hated.

			I think it would make more sense to word it either as "All Universal Likes (except Beer, Coffee, Mead, Pale Ale, Piña Colada, Wine, and Cooking)" (recognizing that this technically says that Mango Sticky Rice isn't liked but then gets overwritten by the explicit mention below) or as "All Universal Likes (except Beer, Coffee, Mead, Pale Ale, Piña Colada, Wine, and Cooking other than Mango Sticky Rice)" (recognizing that this makes Mango Sticky Rice show up twice semi-redundantly). I'm biased towards the first one personally, though I see that you previously kept Mango Sticky Rice on the list in revision 120215. [[User:CandyNim\|CandyNim]] ([[User talk:CandyNim\|talk]]) 19:50, 16 October 2026 (UTC)

imported>Margotbean: Reverted edits by Victor Drunkenstein (talk) to last revision by Margotbean

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Reverted edits by Victor Drunkenstein (talk) to last revision by Margotbean

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	: You got an ostrich egg as it was your next unshipped item. [[User:BlaDe\|BlaDe]] ([[User talk:BlaDe\|talk]]) 18:15, 5 October 2026 (UTC)		: You got an ostrich egg as it was your next unshipped item. [[User:BlaDe\|BlaDe]] ([[User talk:BlaDe\|talk]]) 18:15, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
	::Yes, I replied on the editor's talk page, thank you BlaDe, [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 18:30, 5 October 2026 (UTC)		::Yes, I replied on the editor's talk page, thank you BlaDe, [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 18:30, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

	~~== You are incompetent ==~~

	~~It's clear to me now that you being an admin is due to activity and not because you are fit to govern a wiki.~~
	~~You are hands down the worst admin I have ever met and that is saying something as I got into a flame war with the admins on one wiki.~~
	~~I mean I checked the history of a lot of random articles and 90% of what you do is undoing other peoples contributions.~~
	But I guess this is because you don't have any superiors, because this wiki is not part of Fandom or Gameopedia. Which on one hand is good because there are no adds, but on the other hand there is no one to monitor an incompetent spod like you. You simply can't be bothered to govern this place properly so you just search for excuses to undo revisions and keep up the status quo as if you know what you are doing.

	Like you reverted what I wrote about fruit becoming larger with quality because it's "false." Yeah then why were my iridium quality apples larger than silver quality when I shake them off? Also now that my silver quality fruit advanced to gold they are clearly larger than before, but not as large as iridium.

	Or you removed my trivia about TR:TLR because it breaks the rules of the wiki. But who wrote those rules? You did, so you can have an excuse to remove such posts. I mean you telling me the trivia for the Radioactive Bar isn't the exact same as what I did? It is, only it was written BEFORE you made that rule so you kept it.

	~~Oh and go ahead and ban if you want to, you think I will care? You clearly don't want anyone to contribute anything anyway, so what difference does it make?~~

imported>Victor Drunkenstein: /* You are incompetent */ new section

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You are incompetent: new section

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	: You got an ostrich egg as it was your next unshipped item. [[User:BlaDe\|BlaDe]] ([[User talk:BlaDe\|talk]]) 18:15, 5 October 2026 (UTC)		: You got an ostrich egg as it was your next unshipped item. [[User:BlaDe\|BlaDe]] ([[User talk:BlaDe\|talk]]) 18:15, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
	::Yes, I replied on the editor's talk page, thank you BlaDe, [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 18:30, 5 October 2026 (UTC)		::Yes, I replied on the editor's talk page, thank you BlaDe, [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 18:30, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

			== You are incompetent ==

			It's clear to me now that you being an admin is due to activity and not because you are fit to govern a wiki.
			You are hands down the worst admin I have ever met and that is saying something as I got into a flame war with the admins on one wiki.
			I mean I checked the history of a lot of random articles and 90% of what you do is undoing other peoples contributions.
			But I guess this is because you don't have any superiors, because this wiki is not part of Fandom or Gameopedia. Which on one hand is good because there are no adds, but on the other hand there is no one to monitor an incompetent spod like you. You simply can't be bothered to govern this place properly so you just search for excuses to undo revisions and keep up the status quo as if you know what you are doing.

			Like you reverted what I wrote about fruit becoming larger with quality because it's "false." Yeah then why were my iridium quality apples larger than silver quality when I shake them off? Also now that my silver quality fruit advanced to gold they are clearly larger than before, but not as large as iridium.

			Or you removed my trivia about TR:TLR because it breaks the rules of the wiki. But who wrote those rules? You did, so you can have an excuse to remove such posts. I mean you telling me the trivia for the Radioactive Bar isn't the exact same as what I did? It is, only it was written BEFORE you made that rule so you kept it.

			Oh and go ahead and ban if you want to, you think I will care? You clearly don't want anyone to contribute anything anyway, so what difference does it make?

imported>Margotbean at 18:30, 5 October 2026

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	LivofIsengard [[User:LivofIsengard\|LivofIsengard]] ([[User talk:LivofIsengard\|talk]]) 16:57, 5 October 2026 (UTC)		LivofIsengard [[User:LivofIsengard\|LivofIsengard]] ([[User talk:LivofIsengard\|talk]]) 16:57, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
	: You got an ostrich egg as it was your next unshipped item. [[User:BlaDe\|BlaDe]] ([[User talk:BlaDe\|talk]]) 18:15, 5 October 2026 (UTC)		: You got an ostrich egg as it was your next unshipped item. [[User:BlaDe\|BlaDe]] ([[User talk:BlaDe\|talk]]) 18:15, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
			::Yes, I replied on the editor's talk page, thank you BlaDe, [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 18:30, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

imported>BlaDe at 18:15, 5 October 2026

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	== Clara Mullner move ==		== Clara Mullner move ==

	Hi Margotbean! I'm hoping you can move ~~'''~~Clara Mullner~~'''~~ to ~~'''~~Clara~~'''~~ to be faithful to her name in Stardew. There was some relevant conversation at [[Talk:Clara Mullner]] a few years ago, but it looks like that project has stalled. Please let me know if I can be helpful in any way. Best, [[User:HouseBlaster\|HouseBlaster]] ([[User talk:HouseBlaster\|talk]]) 03:49, 9 August 2026 (UTC)		Hi Margotbean! I'm hoping you can move [[Clara Mullner]] to [[Clara]] to be faithful to her name in Stardew. There was some relevant conversation at [[Talk:Clara Mullner]] a few years ago, but it looks like that project has stalled. Please let me know if I can be helpful in any way. Best, [[User:HouseBlaster\|HouseBlaster]] ([[User talk:HouseBlaster\|talk]]) 03:49, 9 August 2026 (UTC)

	== Korean "Getting Started" image ==		== Korean "Getting Started" image ==
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	I had recently edited the ostrich egg location since I received one as a reward from the raccoons. This was not a part of the main quest for the raccoons, since I have already finished that. I play on the switch if that matters.		I had recently edited the ostrich egg location since I received one as a reward from the raccoons. This was not a part of the main quest for the raccoons, since I have already finished that. I play on the switch if that matters.
	LivofIsengard [[User:LivofIsengard\|LivofIsengard]] ([[User talk:LivofIsengard\|talk]]) 16:57, 5 October 2026 (UTC)		LivofIsengard [[User:LivofIsengard\|LivofIsengard]] ([[User talk:LivofIsengard\|talk]]) 16:57, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
			: You got an ostrich egg as it was your next unshipped item. [[User:BlaDe\|BlaDe]] ([[User talk:BlaDe\|talk]]) 18:15, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

imported>Margotbean: rm redlink

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rm redlink

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	== Clara Mullner move ==		== Clara Mullner move ==

	Hi Margotbean! I'm hoping you can move [[Clara Mullner]] to [[Clara]] to be faithful to her name in Stardew. There was some relevant conversation at [[Talk:Clara Mullner]] a few years ago, but it looks like that project has stalled. Please let me know if I can be helpful in any way. Best, [[User:HouseBlaster\|HouseBlaster]] ([[User talk:HouseBlaster\|talk]]) 03:49, 9 August 2026 (UTC)		Hi Margotbean! I'm hoping you can move '''Clara Mullner''' to '''Clara''' to be faithful to her name in Stardew. There was some relevant conversation at [[Talk:Clara Mullner]] a few years ago, but it looks like that project has stalled. Please let me know if I can be helpful in any way. Best, [[User:HouseBlaster\|HouseBlaster]] ([[User talk:HouseBlaster\|talk]]) 03:49, 9 August 2026 (UTC)

	== Korean "Getting Started" image ==		== Korean "Getting Started" image ==

imported>LivofIsengard: /* Ostrich egg */ new section

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Ostrich egg: new section

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	So I think the contents work pretty much like the Prize Machine i.e. it's like a deck of cards and you always keep getting the card on top. BUT I believe there is another script which prevents the contents of these containers to be too samey. And this script likely tracks your save file on how many of these containers you currently have in your possession in total. And so if the contents become too repetitive for certain items it adds more variation. This is likely to prevent annoying situations like you have 100 Geode's to open and a 3rd of them gives you stones. --Unsigned comment by [[User:Victor Drunkenstein\|Victor Drunkenstein]] 29 September 2026		So I think the contents work pretty much like the Prize Machine i.e. it's like a deck of cards and you always keep getting the card on top. BUT I believe there is another script which prevents the contents of these containers to be too samey. And this script likely tracks your save file on how many of these containers you currently have in your possession in total. And so if the contents become too repetitive for certain items it adds more variation. This is likely to prevent annoying situations like you have 100 Geode's to open and a 3rd of them gives you stones. --Unsigned comment by [[User:Victor Drunkenstein\|Victor Drunkenstein]] 29 September 2026

			== Ostrich egg ==

			Hi!
			I had recently edited the ostrich egg location since I received one as a reward from the raccoons. This was not a part of the main quest for the raccoons, since I have already finished that. I play on the switch if that matters.
			LivofIsengard [[User:LivofIsengard\|LivofIsengard]] ([[User talk:LivofIsengard\|talk]]) 16:57, 5 October 2026 (UTC)

imported>Margotbean: +missing sig

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+missing sig

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	I don't think that is the case. Before I got my Treasure Appraisal Guide I did a little bit of testing. I had 36 Artifact Troves and I split them into stacks of 6, 10 and 20. Then I got 9 new ones and checked what is inside. After that I started stacking them with the old ones starting with 6, then 10 and finally 20, after which I got the book. But no matter which stack I picked the contents were very similar. As another example I will use Golden Coconuts. When I had 1 and opened it I got a Fossilized Skull, then when I opened another 1 I got the same. But after stacking these 2, 1st I got the Fossilized Skull again, but the 2nd gave me a Golden Helmet.		I don't think that is the case. Before I got my Treasure Appraisal Guide I did a little bit of testing. I had 36 Artifact Troves and I split them into stacks of 6, 10 and 20. Then I got 9 new ones and checked what is inside. After that I started stacking them with the old ones starting with 6, then 10 and finally 20, after which I got the book. But no matter which stack I picked the contents were very similar. As another example I will use Golden Coconuts. When I had 1 and opened it I got a Fossilized Skull, then when I opened another 1 I got the same. But after stacking these 2, 1st I got the Fossilized Skull again, but the 2nd gave me a Golden Helmet.

	So I think the contents work pretty much like the Prize Machine i.e. it's like a deck of cards and you always keep getting the card on top. BUT I believe there is another script which prevents the contents of these containers to be too samey. And this script likely tracks your save file on how many of these containers you currently have in your possession in total. And so if the contents become too repetitive for certain items it adds more variation. This is likely to prevent annoying situations like you have 100 Geode's to open and a 3rd of them gives you stones.		So I think the contents work pretty much like the Prize Machine i.e. it's like a deck of cards and you always keep getting the card on top. BUT I believe there is another script which prevents the contents of these containers to be too samey. And this script likely tracks your save file on how many of these containers you currently have in your possession in total. And so if the contents become too repetitive for certain items it adds more variation. This is likely to prevent annoying situations like you have 100 Geode's to open and a 3rd of them gives you stones. --Unsigned comment by [[User:Victor Drunkenstein\|Victor Drunkenstein]] 29 September 2026

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	LivofIsengard [[User:LivofIsengard\|LivofIsengard]] ([[User talk:LivofIsengard\|talk]]) 16:57, 5 October 2026 (UTC)		LivofIsengard [[User:LivofIsengard\|LivofIsengard]] ([[User talk:LivofIsengard\|talk]]) 16:57, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
	: You got an ostrich egg as it was your next unshipped item. [[User:BlaDe\|BlaDe]] ([[User talk:BlaDe\|talk]]) 18:15, 5 October 2026 (UTC)		: You got an ostrich egg as it was your next unshipped item. [[User:BlaDe\|BlaDe]] ([[User talk:BlaDe\|talk]]) 18:15, 5 October 2026 (UTC)
			::Yes, I replied on the editor's talk page, thank you BlaDe, [[User:Margotbean\|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean\|talk]]) 18:30, 5 October 2026 (UTC)