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Instead of listing each Wine, Juice, Jelly, Pickle, and Aged Roe type individually, I think they should be compressed so that all Wine variants that have the same value for each quality all share a single line. - [[User:Starfarmer|Starfarmer]] ([[User talk:Starfarmer|talk]]) 17:06, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Instead of listing each Wine, Juice, Jelly, Pickle, and Aged Roe type individually, I think they should be compressed so that all Wine variants that have the same value for each quality all share a single line. - [[User:Starfarmer|Starfarmer]] ([[User talk:Starfarmer|talk]]) 17:06, 25 September 2023 (UTC)


===Alternative Stategy===
:Absolutely agree. It's really hard to read right now even without newer additions like dried fruit or smoked fish. --[[User:Optimatum|Optimatum]] ([[User talk:Optimatum|talk]]) 16:20, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 
==Alternative Stategy==


The page says '''always''' bet half your start tokens on green. I tried this twice on the same day, and both times went from over 1,000 stars to less than 100. I think it would be worthwhile for the page to mention another strategy that I have seen explained in other places online: First, bet 160 on green. If you win repeat. If you lose, double it: bet 320 on green. Usually, you'll win. In the rare case when you lose that, double it again: bet 640 on green. Any time you win, bet 160 on green again. Maybe my fair was on an unlucky day or something, but I found that effective on the same day that always betting half was not.  [[User:DemonOfSarila|DemonOfSarila]] ([[User talk:DemonOfSarila|talk]]) 20:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
The page says '''always''' bet half your start tokens on green. I tried this twice on the same day, and both times went from over 1,000 stars to less than 100. I think it would be worthwhile for the page to mention another strategy that I have seen explained in other places online: First, bet 160 on green. If you win repeat. If you lose, double it: bet 320 on green. Usually, you'll win. In the rare case when you lose that, double it again: bet 640 on green. Any time you win, bet 160 on green again. Maybe my fair was on an unlucky day or something, but I found that effective on the same day that always betting half was not.  [[User:DemonOfSarila|DemonOfSarila]] ([[User talk:DemonOfSarila|talk]]) 20:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
:In any single case, RNG might not be in your favor, but overall, the Kelly criterion will work. If you had kept at it, your 100g would have gone up. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 21:02, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
:In any single case, RNG might not be in your favor, but overall, the Kelly criterion will work. If you had kept at it, your 100g would have gone up. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 21:02, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
::The kelly criterion will screw you over if you have bad luck on that day, no special charm, and no luck buffs. This could be added for clarity – if you have bad daily luck iirc you should bet some 31% instead of 46.666%. With the red bad luck on the TV, your median profit is negative at 50% betting. [[User:Mlem|Mlem]] ([[User talk:Mlem|talk]]) 18:01, 29 July 2025 (UTC)


== Spinner Odds Calculations ==
== Spinner Odds Calculations ==


Given the lack of source for the "3x as Likely" claim given in the description, I decided to crunch the numbers myself for the various starting velocities. 7/30 possible starting velocities result in Orange, with the remaining being Green. This is verifiable by code analysis.
Given the lack of source for the "3x as Likely" claim given in the description, I decided to crunch the numbers myself for the various starting velocities. 7/30 possible starting velocities result in Orange, with the remaining being Green. This is verifiable by code analysis.
[[File:Spinner Odds Spreadsheet.png|frameless|Spinner Odds Calculations]]
:I'm deleting the image, a link to a google spreadsheet would be better so people can see the underlying formulas. But, if the calculations are verifiable by code reference, then the image isn't needed. Please remember to sign your posts with 4 tildes! Thanks! [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 19:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
::Hi! I've attempted to replicate this, but found 8 of the initial conditions resulting in Orange. I've put a table of my results on [[User:Wikonimo#Wheel Spin Outcomes|my user page]], and would appreciate if you could compare them with your results to see where one of us has gone wrong. [[User:Wikonimo|Wikonimo]] ([[User talk:Wikonimo|talk]]) 21:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 
== Gus cooking Survival Burgers in the East? ==
 
On my current playthrough I've just reached the Year 2 fair, and I noticed that Gus had the grills setup in the east rather than the north as usual (and as in year 1). Unfortunately I didn't really think much of it until I had already left the fair and ended the day, so I don't have a screenshot or know what (if anything) was in the north. Has anyone else noticed this? [[User:GTink911|GTink911]] ([[User talk:GTink911|talk]]) 15:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 
I think most festivals now have a unique layout on every other year. [[User:Bredzisz|Bredzisz]] ([[User talk:Bredzisz|talk]]) 15:56, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 
== Grange Display info for 1.6 ==
 
The list of grange display items needs to be updated for items added in 1.6. I was wondering about Mystic Syrup in particular: I assume it counts as a forage item like the other tree saps, but how does it score compared to quality items in that category? --[[User:Optimatum|Optimatum]] ([[User talk:Optimatum|talk]]) 16:16, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 
== the sentence of the main section ==
 
Hello,
I am trying to synthesize JA wiki to this EN wiki. I am not a native English speaker, so I hope you explain the sentence below for me:
 
:''the grange event can be repeated to earn more star points.''
:(from the main section, the end of 4th paragraph)
 
This says simply "the Grange Contest is held every year" ? Or, under any particular circumstances, Mayor Leuis judge multiple times in the same year? Or, it means "the player can earn star tokens even after the Grange Contest"?
 
[[User:Mmtraa7|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7|talk]]) 15:11, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
 
[[User:Mmtraa7|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7|talk]]) 15:11, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
 
I think my third idea might be right. we have to say "attraction" or "mini games" instead of "Grange Contest", maybe?
 
If this is wrong, please collect it 🙇
 
[[User:Mmtraa7|Mmtraa7]] ([[User talk:Mmtraa7|talk]]) 15:15, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
 
== Smoked Fish count as Artisan items ==
 
I just did the fair on my 1.6 save, and considering my score I believe Smoked Fish count as Artisan items, but they're not listed on there at all. If someone could add them to the list it'd be greatly appreciated
 
:Can confirm the above unsigned comment, that Smoked Fish count for a category, presumably Artisan. Smoked Fish is affected by both the Fisher/Angler professions and the Artisan profession, and it looks like Template changes may be required to incorporate Smoked Fish into the grange list. Above my pay grade. [[User:Zendowolf|Zendowolf]] ([[User talk:Zendowolf|talk]]) 03:09, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
 
::Here to second (third) this notion. I made a Fair Grange Display with 5 categories which didn't include Artisan but did include Fish (iridium quality Bream). I then added two iridium quality Smoked Fish (Smoked Rainbow Trout and Smoked Midnight Carp) for the last two slots. I calculated this: I received full score for 6 categories, as well as 8 points for both fish (normally iridium rainbow trout scores 7 points, even factoring-in professions). Can someone with more wiki-editing-savvy add this as a tip, or as a note above the artisan category, until such time as it is added to the exhaustive list of artisan items (similar to roe)? Thank you. [[User:Vize X|Vize X]] ([[User talk:Vize X|talk]]) 09:15, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
:::I added a note to the Artisan Goods category. [[User:Zendowolf|Zendowolf]] ([[User talk:Zendowolf|talk]]) 01:38, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
 
== Sweet Gem Berry? ==
Could it be added if this counts as trash, or as a fruit? Because Sweet Gem Berries tend to be handled quite a lot different by the game (no wine, no jelly). If they count as trash, this would've been good to know before I planted one with deluxe fertilizer... [[User:Mlem|Mlem]] ([[User talk:Mlem|talk]]) 17:58, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
:Sweet Gem Berry does not belong to any category (for the Fair or in general), so it would not get any category bonus. But you still get full points for the item, which for Sweet Berry is 6 points all qualities up to Gold and 8 points for Iridium quality. If you already have the maximum of six categories covered by other items, there would be no penalty for including a Sweet Gem Berry in your display. The Wiki already says:
::Any items which do not fall into any of these categories will not earn the additional 5 points, but will earn points based on the sell price and quality, explained in the next section.
:It seems like that should cover it. Note that I have not personally tested the specific case of Sweet Gem Berry, but I have tested the behavior for other items, including the Trash item. [[User:Zendowolf|Zendowolf]] ([[User talk:Zendowolf|talk]]) 01:22, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
 
==Star Tokens==
So, Calico Eggs, Qi Gems, and Golden Walnuts all have a page, but Star Tokens do not. Instead, it is contained within Stardew Valley Fair. I'd like to know whether it would be appropriate to create a '''Star Token''' page, or just leave it that way. [[User:GrapeJelly2014|GrapeJelly2014]] ([[User talk:GrapeJelly2014|talk]]) 00:04, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
:No, because they only exist within the SDV Fair, much like Qi Coins only exist inside the casino. They can't be taken into inventory and don't persist from one year to the next, so they are wholly a part of the Fair. [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 05:36, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

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Silver Quality Crab Pot Items

Tried to turn this

"Grangeptsrow|Crab|Crab|100|-4|qualities=0"

Into this:

"Grangeptsrow|Crab|Crab|100|-4|qualities=0,1" to add only silver quality items for crab pot items since there are silver quality crab pot items for 1.6, but it just makes the row blank in preview. Can I get the proper way to do it please? --Rayram (talk) 08:20, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Gold star crafted edibles

The table lists a gold star Oil of Garlic and Life Elixer as being a possible Cooked category items, with a value of 6, but Qi Seasoning doesn't activate when creating Oil of Garlic or Life Elixer through the crafting menu (they're not cooking menu items). Is this a mistake to leave the 6s in there or am I missing something? Electron.rotoscope (talk) 00:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Seems like a mistake to me, that ought to be removed from the page. margotbean (talk) 17:32, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Perferkt Score

Should a picture showing a display with 125 points achieved added to the page? If yes, next to the screen with 124 points or better in a Gallery section? I currently have a screenshot, Botautal (talk) 20:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I think it's pretty clear from the text that the only change is to swap out iridium Fiddlehead Fern for an iridium vegetable that gives 8 points, which are listed in the sortable table. So, I don't think an image is necessary. I also don't want to have to try to fit it in the available space in 12 languages. ;) Thanks, though! margotbean (talk) 20:12, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Special Prices

I recently had a fair display with a Spring Onion and a Salmonberry in it. The score I got leads me to believe that Bear's Knowledge and Spring Onion Mastery both contribute to the score in a fair display. I'm not sure how to add that to the page. There could be a note, next to the note saying professions don't affect the score, but should there also be additional entries with the enhanced prices and scores for those items? Zendowolf (talk) 22:59, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

I don't see where it says profession bonuses don't affect sell price, I see where it says they do affect sell price, but are not included on the page. margotbean (talk) 23:03, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Are you talking about this sentence?: "Note: Profession bonuses (which affect in-game sell prices) are not included in the calculations on this page." If so, that sentence should be clarified. Since the calculations on this page are calculating your score, I always took it to mean that they were not included in your score. Something like, "Note: Profession bonuses are not included on this page, but they do affect your score." Or rather, "Note: Profession bonuses, Bear's Knowledge, and Spring Onion Mastery are not included on this page, but they do affect your score." Zendowolf (talk) 23:20, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes, that's the sentence I was referring to, and I agree, it could be made more clear. 👍 margotbean (talk) 23:22, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Spinning Wheel bets

On the page, it's written that according to the Kelly criteria, you should bet 50% of you money... But If you compute it, it's 0.75 - (0.25 / 2) = 62.5%, which is more than just half--Ishigh (talk) 11:44, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

It's not my area of expertise, but it appears the calculation was "simplified for the case of doubling a bet." (2 * Probability of Winning) - 1 comes out to 50%. margotbean (talk) 14:24, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Lost and Found Box

Would it be feasible to put a 1.5 spoiler where there are mentions of 1.5 things? Lost and Found was added in 1.5 and I play on mobile. I just wanna help someone else not make my mistake of having a false sense of security. RIP to my second Prismatic Shard. TexWashington (talk) 06:56, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm really sorry that happened to you! I've added another spoiler box to the section regarding the lost and found box. I don't think anyone expected the mobile v1.5 update to take a whole year, but here we are. Future advice: read the history sections of relevant pages to avoid another catastrophic loss! Again, so sorry that happened! margotbean (talk) 19:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Energy bar particles from a Stardrop

Before the 1.4 update, I saw some people on YouTube that have gotten the Stardrop at the Fair, and still seeing the particles where the Energy bar would be. When I first saw this, I was going to say: "THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED ASAP." 9000 (talk) 7:25, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Clicking on the cliff above Harvey's Clinic at the Stardew Valley Fair

Since of lads are used to the Strength Game to where you can obtain Star Tokens at the Fair, Apparently if we go above Harvey's Clinic and click on the cliff while we're facing east towards Pierre's General Store, it gives out the message "Please stand at the red arrow." as if we're gonna play the Strength Game. This has to be a bug because the wiki doesn't have this bug in the Bugs section of the Fair page. We should get lads over to check this out... 9000 (talk) 8:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

This bug was fixed in v1.5. Please read the "History" section of the page. If your game is malfunctioning, please file a bug report on the official forums. margotbean (talk) 14:48, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Compress redundant Artisan Goods entries

Instead of listing each Wine, Juice, Jelly, Pickle, and Aged Roe type individually, I think they should be compressed so that all Wine variants that have the same value for each quality all share a single line. - Starfarmer (talk) 17:06, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Absolutely agree. It's really hard to read right now even without newer additions like dried fruit or smoked fish. --Optimatum (talk) 16:20, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Alternative Stategy

The page says always bet half your start tokens on green. I tried this twice on the same day, and both times went from over 1,000 stars to less than 100. I think it would be worthwhile for the page to mention another strategy that I have seen explained in other places online: First, bet 160 on green. If you win repeat. If you lose, double it: bet 320 on green. Usually, you'll win. In the rare case when you lose that, double it again: bet 640 on green. Any time you win, bet 160 on green again. Maybe my fair was on an unlucky day or something, but I found that effective on the same day that always betting half was not. DemonOfSarila (talk) 20:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

In any single case, RNG might not be in your favor, but overall, the Kelly criterion will work. If you had kept at it, your 100g would have gone up. margotbean (talk) 21:02, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
The kelly criterion will screw you over if you have bad luck on that day, no special charm, and no luck buffs. This could be added for clarity – if you have bad daily luck iirc you should bet some 31% instead of 46.666%. With the red bad luck on the TV, your median profit is negative at 50% betting. Mlem (talk) 18:01, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

Spinner Odds Calculations

Given the lack of source for the "3x as Likely" claim given in the description, I decided to crunch the numbers myself for the various starting velocities. 7/30 possible starting velocities result in Orange, with the remaining being Green. This is verifiable by code analysis.

I'm deleting the image, a link to a google spreadsheet would be better so people can see the underlying formulas. But, if the calculations are verifiable by code reference, then the image isn't needed. Please remember to sign your posts with 4 tildes! Thanks! margotbean (talk) 19:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi! I've attempted to replicate this, but found 8 of the initial conditions resulting in Orange. I've put a table of my results on my user page, and would appreciate if you could compare them with your results to see where one of us has gone wrong. Wikonimo (talk) 21:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Gus cooking Survival Burgers in the East?

On my current playthrough I've just reached the Year 2 fair, and I noticed that Gus had the grills setup in the east rather than the north as usual (and as in year 1). Unfortunately I didn't really think much of it until I had already left the fair and ended the day, so I don't have a screenshot or know what (if anything) was in the north. Has anyone else noticed this? GTink911 (talk) 15:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

I think most festivals now have a unique layout on every other year. Bredzisz (talk) 15:56, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Grange Display info for 1.6

The list of grange display items needs to be updated for items added in 1.6. I was wondering about Mystic Syrup in particular: I assume it counts as a forage item like the other tree saps, but how does it score compared to quality items in that category? --Optimatum (talk) 16:16, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

the sentence of the main section

Hello, I am trying to synthesize JA wiki to this EN wiki. I am not a native English speaker, so I hope you explain the sentence below for me:

the grange event can be repeated to earn more star points.
(from the main section, the end of 4th paragraph)

This says simply "the Grange Contest is held every year" ? Or, under any particular circumstances, Mayor Leuis judge multiple times in the same year? Or, it means "the player can earn star tokens even after the Grange Contest"?

Mmtraa7 (talk) 15:11, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Mmtraa7 (talk) 15:11, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

I think my third idea might be right. we have to say "attraction" or "mini games" instead of "Grange Contest", maybe?

If this is wrong, please collect it 🙇

Mmtraa7 (talk) 15:15, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Smoked Fish count as Artisan items

I just did the fair on my 1.6 save, and considering my score I believe Smoked Fish count as Artisan items, but they're not listed on there at all. If someone could add them to the list it'd be greatly appreciated

Can confirm the above unsigned comment, that Smoked Fish count for a category, presumably Artisan. Smoked Fish is affected by both the Fisher/Angler professions and the Artisan profession, and it looks like Template changes may be required to incorporate Smoked Fish into the grange list. Above my pay grade. Zendowolf (talk) 03:09, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Here to second (third) this notion. I made a Fair Grange Display with 5 categories which didn't include Artisan but did include Fish (iridium quality Bream). I then added two iridium quality Smoked Fish (Smoked Rainbow Trout and Smoked Midnight Carp) for the last two slots. I calculated this: I received full score for 6 categories, as well as 8 points for both fish (normally iridium rainbow trout scores 7 points, even factoring-in professions). Can someone with more wiki-editing-savvy add this as a tip, or as a note above the artisan category, until such time as it is added to the exhaustive list of artisan items (similar to roe)? Thank you. Vize X (talk) 09:15, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
I added a note to the Artisan Goods category. Zendowolf (talk) 01:38, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Sweet Gem Berry?

Could it be added if this counts as trash, or as a fruit? Because Sweet Gem Berries tend to be handled quite a lot different by the game (no wine, no jelly). If they count as trash, this would've been good to know before I planted one with deluxe fertilizer... Mlem (talk) 17:58, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

Sweet Gem Berry does not belong to any category (for the Fair or in general), so it would not get any category bonus. But you still get full points for the item, which for Sweet Berry is 6 points all qualities up to Gold and 8 points for Iridium quality. If you already have the maximum of six categories covered by other items, there would be no penalty for including a Sweet Gem Berry in your display. The Wiki already says:
Any items which do not fall into any of these categories will not earn the additional 5 points, but will earn points based on the sell price and quality, explained in the next section.
It seems like that should cover it. Note that I have not personally tested the specific case of Sweet Gem Berry, but I have tested the behavior for other items, including the Trash item. Zendowolf (talk) 01:22, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Star Tokens

So, Calico Eggs, Qi Gems, and Golden Walnuts all have a page, but Star Tokens do not. Instead, it is contained within Stardew Valley Fair. I'd like to know whether it would be appropriate to create a Star Token page, or just leave it that way. GrapeJelly2014 (talk) 00:04, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

No, because they only exist within the SDV Fair, much like Qi Coins only exist inside the casino. They can't be taken into inventory and don't persist from one year to the next, so they are wholly a part of the Fair. margotbean (talk) 05:36, 26 October 2025 (UTC)