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Feedback

Hi, I'm open to feedback on my submission to the wiki page that you reversed. I'd appreciate feedback rather than just deleting it without explanation. :)Teageen (talk) 01:50, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

Here are the top three reasons the edit was reverted:

1. The wiki doesn't include lengthy paragraphs written to dispel myths that are circulating in an undisclosed location nine years after the game's release.
2. The language of the wiki uses third person, in an encyclopediac tone rather than second person advice-giving.
3. The paragraph includes the probability of landing on green without any supporting calculations.

There are more, but those are enough to revert the edit. Hope this helps. margotbean (talk) 05:33, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

Ok! I will revise it then and try againTeageen (talk) 08:38, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I apologize for posting it back after you removed it; I didn't realize you were an admin since your username didn't have any tags or badges or anything to indicate that in the History page, so I thought it was just any other random person doing it. I am happy to add sources, and I already have them ready, but I didn't add them yet because I don't understand how to format them and I didn't want to mess up the sources that are already in there. I spent at least 30 minutes looking for information on how to do that, but I seem to not know the terminology to use to get applicable results. Is there a guide somewhere that explains that? I didn't see one in the Help Editing page or the site linked to in the editing images section of that page. Also, your response in your first bullet point and your emphasis on "there are more" at the end seems a little bit unnecessarily mean. I understand that it's probably annoying to moderate a wiki, in the same way that it's annoying to interact with the public in any user/customer service position, and I appreciate your work. That said, I was making an effort to add information that I had difficulty finding myself when looking into this, because I thought it would be helpful to other people, and I'd like to fix my contribution to meet the standards needed to post it. If there had been a notice when I went to edit the page telling me to read the Help Editing page before contributing, or to contact a mod for permission first, I would have done so. But I read everything on that screen and it didn't say anything like that so I figured it would be ok, and if I needed to change it, someone would tell me what to fix about it or just fix it themselves. I have now read the Help Editing page, so I understand that this is not any other wiki or Wikipedia, and so the rules don't be the same, but based on my experience with Wikipedia pages, it is fairly normal to have things posted that don't necessarily have sources linked immediately, or to have phrasing changed by someone else later, so I didn't think it would be a big deal to add them later. I now understand this wiki has higher standards, and I am happy to adjust my contribution accordingly. I'd like to have friendly collaboration, so I apologise that our initial contact must have been frustrating for you. Teageen (talk) 09:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

Documenting bugs

Please don't remove documentation of long-lived bugs in the game, as in https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Special:MobileDiff/187671

The Wiki hosts documentation of bugs. For example:

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Category:Bugs_tested_in_1.6 Mahalo (talk) 19:04, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

The editing instructions give specific instructions for documenting bugs.

Please revert your incorrect deletion of the Bait#Bugs section.

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Help:Editing Mahalo (talk) 19:07, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

New Skills Tab Icon

I tried to upload a new version of File:Skills Tab Icon.png without an extra white pixel on the top left of the icon (see version here), and MediaWiki simply duplicated the older version while displaying the size of the new version (453b). I don't know if it's a cache problem. I tried to purge the page, but nothing changed, at least on my side. Sapador (talk) 16:19, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello Sapador! Yes, it's a cache problem. A continual, constant problem. It seems like the new image is now visible. Thanks! margotbean (talk) 20:14, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Crafting Ingredients (again)

While working on my crafting ingredients list, I wanted to check my math by comparing my numbers to your list at User:Margotbean/IngredientsShortList. The crafting list on that page appears to be for v1.5 (it includes Dwarf Gadget) but has not been updated for v1.6, missing Bait, Cave Jelly, River Jelly, Sea Jelly, and other ingredients new in v1.6. It would be helpful to either update your list or mark it as v1.5. I am willing to update the page to mark the list as v1.5, but I didn't want to do it without your go-ahead, since it's a user page. Gmlobdell (talk) 17:42, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Users cannot edit other people's user pages. That page wasn't meant to be a reference for the wiki, merely a proof of concept idea. It is indeed outdated, and I have no plans to update it, I'm sorry! margotbean (talk) 22:20, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Tips on the Quests page

Hello Morgotbean!

Why did you remove my tips section on the Quests page?

Greetings Ffets (talk) 19:30, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

The tips were opinions, not facts, poorly written as advice-giving, and in some cases impossible to follow (e.g., "Be sure to grow a giant Qi Fruit"). So, not actually helpful. See Help:Editing for more guidance. margotbean (talk) 19:33, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

Ok, I understand. It's quite frustrating, if your edits get reverted as soon as you join a new wiki. I try to find a better and more factual way to put it.

English page not found for "Stuffing"

Hi, while browsing the site, I noticed something. There was no "Stuffing" page in English. Did you know?

I would appreciate it if you answer.Muss (talk) 12:44, 27 August 2025 (UTC)Muss

The page is located at Stuffing. margotbean (talk) 06:15, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

I understand the problem. If you go to the Turkish page, scroll to the bottom and you'll see [[en:Stuffing]. I'll fix it. Muss (talk) 18:04, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

The spawn rate of Rare Objects in The Mines seems incorrect

Hello, admin! I’ve been looking into the spawn rates of objects in The Mines recently, and I think the documented rate for Rare Objects on the English wiki may be incorrect. Please take a look at the relevant code below:

if (r.NextDouble() < 0.2)
{
    // raccoon seeds: 2% 
    if (r.NextDouble() < 0.1)
        ...
    return; // 20% chance return directly !!!!
}

// qi beans：5% * 0.8 = 4%
if (r.NextDouble() <= 0.05 && Game1.player.team.SpecialOrderRuleActive("DROP_QI_BEANS"))
    ...

// mystery boxes：0.81% * 0.66 * 0.8 = 0.42678%
if (Utility.tryRollMysteryBox(0.0081 + Game1.player.team.AverageDailyLuck() / 15.0, r))
    ...

// rare objects
Utility.trySpawnRareObject(who, new Vector2(x, y) * 64f, location, 1.5, 1.0, -1, r);

Note that if the first if branch is entered, there is a 20% probability of returning immediately. Therefore, all subsequent probabilities should be multiplied by 0.8, but the statistics of rare objects and mystery boxes at present forgot to do that. SummerFleur (talk) 16:46, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

It appears you are correct, the previous editors missed the "return" after raccoon seeds. Either that, or "return" wasn't in earlier verions of 1.6, I don't know, but please feel free to make corrections to the relevant page(s)! Thank you! margotbean (talk) 06:15, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

The meaning of life

Wow! I was exhausted when I made that edit. 42 may be the meaning of life, but the older I get, the more sleep seems to be a life elixir! :) Giles (talk) 23:22, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

I am reaching that age myself. Nothing beats a good nap! :D margotbean (talk) 17:23, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Non-Square Icons in Name Lists

When creating a list of Stardew Valley items, the wiki uses the {{Name|...}} template. The problem with this is that while most of the item icons are square, 48 x 48 pixels, some icons are taller, 48 x 96 pixels, for example. These taller icons create visually incongruent lists. I am proposing a change to make it easier for wiki writers to create visually consistent lists. If there is a more appropriate page to discuss these changes, please tell me where and I'll move this discussion there.

The Furnace icon is one of these 48 x 96 pixel icons. Regular square icons are 24 x 24 here. Column 1 shows the result of {{Name|Furnace|4}}, the Furnace icon at its default size in the Name template is 24 x 48 pixels, creating a taller line than the other items. Column 2 shows {{Name|Furnace|4|size=12}}, now the icon height and line spacing are correct, but the words do not align with the lines above and below. Column 3 shows two potential solutions, the first using CSS padding, and the second using a blank image for padding.

Copper Bar (1) Iron Bar (2) Gold Bar (3) Furnace (4) Apple (6) Orange (7) Banana (8)

Copper Bar (1) Iron Bar (2) Gold Bar (3) Furnace (4) Apple (6) Orange (7) Banana (8)

Copper Bar (1) Iron Bar (2) Gold Bar (3) Furnace (4) - Fix using CSS padding Furnace (5) - Fix using a padding image Apple (6) Orange (7) Banana (8)

CSS Padding

I think this is the best solution. To best implement the CSS padding solution, additional content would be required in Template:Name/styles.css and a new named parameter to Template:Name with code to handle the parameter. I would propose that the parameter name be "iconpad" or something similar. The content below would be added to the styles.css file. Three padding styles are needed to accommodate the three icon sizes seen so far. It might be possible to use one padding style and a CSS variable passed in from HTML.

/* add padding to the icon, used for tall (48x96) icons */
.iconpadding6 {
   padding:6px;
}

/* add padding to the icon, used for tall (48x75) icons, most Braziers */
.iconpadding4 {
   padding:4px;
}

/* add padding to the icon, used for tall (48x63) icons, Garden Pot */
.iconpadding3 {
   padding:3px;
}

If changes to the Template:Name were deemed too risky, a second template could be created, NamePadded, which could implement the needed logic for the padding.

Blank Image Padding

The Blank Image Padding solution requires a new image file, that can then be resized to create the padding space. In the example, the Blank_icon.png file is used, but it's not truly blank. Similar to the CSS padding solution, to streamline usage, a new named parameter to Template:Name would be needed, with code in the template to implement the padding. This solution would not require CSS changes.

Other Discarded Ideas

Padding could also be accomplished by building the padding directly into the image used, creating second square icons for the icons that are not square. This would become a maintenance issue if the items changed their appearance in the game implementation, and the wiki images had to be updated.

Gmlobdell (talk) 20:45, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

The icons are fine as is; they reflect the size they are in-game. In the future, discussions about Template:Name can be placed on the talk page for the template. Also note that "mediawiki" is not a valid syntax language for syntaxhighlight, so I've removed the syntax hightlighting errors from the page. Thanks, margotbean (talk) 22:02, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Ban Appeal from Islabean13

Hello, I’m Islabean13. I was recently blocked by Margotbean for “Excessive counterproductive edits” after I created a “Resources” page. I had seen another user request it and didn’t mean to cause trouble. I’d like to understand what I did wrong and whether my block could be reconsidered. Thank you for your time.

Hello! That account was blocked six months ago, in March, so not quite "recently". Please read Help:Editing to better understand the rules/guidelines for editing the wiki. Read it, digest it, ponder it. And please remember to sign your posts with 4 tildes, as it says at the top of the page. Thank you, margotbean (talk) 18:47, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

Hi margotbean,

Thank you for the clarification and for pointing me to the editing guidelines. I appreciate you taking the time to explain. I’ve read through the Help:Editing page and I understand the expectations better now, including how to properly sign posts. I’ll make sure to follow those rules moving forward. Islabean30 (talk) 19:42, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

Question about appeals

Hello, I was not banned from the wiki (and I hope I never will be) but if I am, how would I make a ban appeal if the account is prevented from making any edits? I just wanted to know, because it seems impossible to appeal otherwise. GrapeJelly2014 (talk) 23:53, 7 October 2025 (UTC)

Well, let's hope it doesn't come to it, but you can email the other admin at the email address listed at the bottom of this page: https://www.stardewvalley.net/contact/ margotbean (talk) 16:41, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

wiki style different

Today I opened the wiki and saw a strange button saying "revert to old look" under Random Page as well as a massive " << Stardew Valley Wiki " sign on the top left that I swear was not there yesterday.... do you know about this because I am extremely confused and I dont know where to post this GrapeJelly2014 (talk) 21:04, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

i am so stupid... it was a preference change I dont remember doing.. sorry for bothering you GrapeJelly2014 (talk) 21:07, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Animals Page

Hi, I am wondering why the profitability section from the Animals page is repeatedly getting deleted. Also, the page got "protected" and now says "Admins only" - I am very sorry if anything is wrong with it, but rather than deleting it immediately, I would appreciate feedback if possible. Thank you and have a great day/night/weekend! Iamatoaster (talk) 00:34, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello Margot! I am wondering why the profitability section from the Animals page is repeatedly getting deleted. I would appreciate feedback if possible because I believe that it is better to give feedback so that users can improve. Thank you for your time! Iamatoaster (talk) 15:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

You triggered the abuse filter 8x in one session, and yet did not read the message?

The answers you seek are in Help:Editing. margotbean (talk) 20:56, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

Ahh, thank you Margot! I see now. Iamatoaster (talk) 17:10, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

Missing info for Pierre's page

(Skippy123asd (talk) 05:33, 23 November 2025 (UTC)) Have a look at Pierre's page.

Wednesday does not use his regular schedule because he is out of shop. It doesn't display Pierre's schedule on Wednesdays. It just says, not in shop. Why is this topic being unassigned?

Please remember to sign your posts with 4 tildes, as it says at the top of the page. margotbean (talk) 00:54, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Missing info on specific house plants

(Skippy123asd (talk) 05:33, 23 November 2025 (UTC))

In the furniture page > https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Furniture Where it says: Fancy House Plants Each of the Fancy House Plants and the first three House Plants can all be obtained from the Prize Machine inside the Mayor's Manor, while the last two House Plants can be obtained from the Crane Machine inside the Movie Theater.

It doesn't specify where to source the middle 3 house plants.

Please remember to sign your posts with 4 tildes, as it says at the top of the page. margotbean (talk) 00:54, 23 November 2025 (UTC)