Talk:Bait Maker
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Legendary Fish
The article tells that legendary fish can be put into a bait maker. Ok. Why would anyone do that? The extended family of legendary, sure. But the originals that can only be caught once per savefile? Should there not be some mention of why not to do this? And is that not actually a bug? Giles (talk) 16:22, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Multiplayer, so your friends can hook the fish quicker? I don't know, personally, I would restart the day if I accidentally made my legendary fish into bait, but that's just me... I would do the same if I turned them into sashimi or quality fertilizer. margotbean (talk) 19:20, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- I never play multiplayer, but I thought they still could be caught only once per file - not once per player? Anyway, I still think it's worth mention in the article. There are plenty of notes, cautions, and tips in other articles. So why not reword what I said rather than remove it? Giles (talk) 23:06, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Why would anyone do that?As Sheldon says in TBBT:Because we can.The originals can be caught once dont mean you can get only 1 fish,instead,it`s up to 3 fishes if you want.(equiping Challenge Bait).I have 7 Cabins and one of them I copy the museum,I can hold exhibitions on different topics.（including Bait exhibition）No joking,I`m serious.
- I never play multiplayer, but I thought they still could be caught only once per file - not once per player? Anyway, I still think it's worth mention in the article. There are plenty of notes, cautions, and tips in other articles. So why not reword what I said rather than remove it? Giles (talk) 23:06, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- So then, the v1.6 update means that the original legendaries can be caught multiple times per save file? If so, the Wiki needs updating too. Or is this change only for multiplayer? Giles (talk) 23:49, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- There is no change, Legendary fish could always be caught once per save file, or once per player in multiplayer. With Challenge Bait, it's possible to reel in up to 3 of a legendary fish with one catch. Difficult, but not impossible. margotbean (talk) 01:29, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- The current text of the wiki says this: 'It will then produce from 5 to 10 "[insert fish name here] Bait," which will increase the chance to catch that fish when attached. Any fish can be used, including Legendary Fish and Crab Pot Fish.' This wording suggests, to me as a reader, that using Targeted Bait made from a Legendary Fish will increase the chance to catch that Legendary Fish. I don't know personally whether this is true or not, but if in most situations it is not true, then maybe some clarification would be good. Cheese80 (talk) 07:21, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification, Margot. I agree with Cheese80 about clarification in the article. If someone walks into this trap unwittingly, I'm sure they'll be rather disgruntled. Giles (talk) 18:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Remember two things: The wiki's job is not to give advice, and the details of using Targeted Bait appear on the Targeted Bait page. margotbean (talk) 00:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed; good points. And the details of the Bait Maker appear on the Bait Maker page also, yes? So, we're talking about a decision to use the Bait Maker or not. It's not about the bait itself. And while I call this a trap here, that's not language to use in the article. As for advice, the Wiki does sometimes supply it covertly in tips. I think there's a line we're not crossing there, yes? I get it: caution and discretion are in order. Giles (talk) 02:57, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- That said, I'm not sure what can be said in the article, though. My basis has always been single player, and that's where it's a trap. Multiplayer brings a whole new outlook to the procedure because of "one catch per player per savefile". Am I the only one around who doesn't play multi-player? Giles (talk) 03:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have time to play multiplayer, other than for testing purposes. I've added a note to the page which hopefully clears up any confustion. margotbean (talk) 16:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! That's perfect! Giles (talk) 17:30, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I understand the reasoning for "we don't want to give advice, so we won't warn players specifically not to use legendary fish". That's fair enough. But I do think it's weird to specifically call out that you CAN use legendary fish. Why even mention them? It does almost feel like a trap, the way it's currently worded. Why not "Any fish can be used, including Crab Pot Fish." or just "Any fish can be used."? I don't see a benefit to the page making extra note of the fact that you could stuff legendary fish in there. (For reference in case it's changed, the page currently specifically states: "Any fish can be used, including Legendary Fish and Crab Pot Fish.") ChloeCat (talk) 02:53, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
- Historically, legendary fish have followed special rules. You can only catch one of each and you couldn't put them into fish ponds until recently. I think the page is fine. Please watch your indentation when replying to an existing topic! margotbean (talk) 03:26, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
- Apologies about indentation! My accessibility options mean the formatting that I see is usually not what the typical user sees, so I don't always notice that. Hopefully I'm doing it correctly now! I guess it does make sense to acknowledge due to special rules, but in that case, I'd say the special rule about catching multiples should also be acknowledged. The sentence right before says that the targeted bait "will increase the chance of catching that fish when attached". That sentence isn't really true about legendary fish (except for possibly in multiplayer). By the time you have the bait, you must have already used the fish to make it, so the chance to catch has gone down to 0 and using the bait will keep the chance at 0. If we're going to specify that legendary fish can be used in the machine, we should also specify that the result won't be the same as with any other fish (i.e. you'll end up with a bait that does nothing, rather than one that increases the catch chance as stated). If you still prefer it as-is, then I guess we'll just agree to disagree! ChloeCat (talk) 20:09, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
- Historically, legendary fish have followed special rules. You can only catch one of each and you couldn't put them into fish ponds until recently. I think the page is fine. Please watch your indentation when replying to an existing topic! margotbean (talk) 03:26, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
- I understand the reasoning for "we don't want to give advice, so we won't warn players specifically not to use legendary fish". That's fair enough. But I do think it's weird to specifically call out that you CAN use legendary fish. Why even mention them? It does almost feel like a trap, the way it's currently worded. Why not "Any fish can be used, including Crab Pot Fish." or just "Any fish can be used."? I don't see a benefit to the page making extra note of the fact that you could stuff legendary fish in there. (For reference in case it's changed, the page currently specifically states: "Any fish can be used, including Legendary Fish and Crab Pot Fish.") ChloeCat (talk) 02:53, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! That's perfect! Giles (talk) 17:30, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have time to play multiplayer, other than for testing purposes. I've added a note to the page which hopefully clears up any confustion. margotbean (talk) 16:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Remember two things: The wiki's job is not to give advice, and the details of using Targeted Bait appear on the Targeted Bait page. margotbean (talk) 00:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification, Margot. I agree with Cheese80 about clarification in the article. If someone walks into this trap unwittingly, I'm sure they'll be rather disgruntled. Giles (talk) 18:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- The current text of the wiki says this: 'It will then produce from 5 to 10 "[insert fish name here] Bait," which will increase the chance to catch that fish when attached. Any fish can be used, including Legendary Fish and Crab Pot Fish.' This wording suggests, to me as a reader, that using Targeted Bait made from a Legendary Fish will increase the chance to catch that Legendary Fish. I don't know personally whether this is true or not, but if in most situations it is not true, then maybe some clarification would be good. Cheese80 (talk) 07:21, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- There is no change, Legendary fish could always be caught once per save file, or once per player in multiplayer. With Challenge Bait, it's possible to reel in up to 3 of a legendary fish with one catch. Difficult, but not impossible. margotbean (talk) 01:29, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- So then, the v1.6 update means that the original legendaries can be caught multiple times per save file? If so, the Wiki needs updating too. Or is this change only for multiplayer? Giles (talk) 23:49, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Translations
German translation is missing Zwirg (talk) 17:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- The link to the German page is there... you are free to click the link, copy the EN page, and start translating! margotbean (talk) 22:52, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Fish quality
Does the quality of the input fish have an influence on the numer of targeted bait produced? --Gaysis (talk) 15:20, 7 March 2026 (UTC)