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I attempted to bypass this error by creating a blank page first and then editing redirect code into it, but while I succeeded in creating [[XP|an empty page]], attempting to turn it into a redirect resulted in the same error. My account is over two years old and autoconfirmed, so I'm not a "new user" in any standard sense. Does an account have to be explicitly whitelisted to create new redirects? | I attempted to bypass this error by creating a blank page first and then editing redirect code into it, but while I succeeded in creating [[XP|an empty page]], attempting to turn it into a redirect resulted in the same error. My account is over two years old and autoconfirmed, so I'm not a "new user" in any standard sense. Does an account have to be explicitly whitelisted to create new redirects? [[User:Gold Meddle]] 16 July 2026 | ||
:Hello! Unnecessary redirects are undesirable because eventually pages link to the redirect instead of the source page. They create a snarled mess that translators find difficult to navigate. Thanks for your comment, [[User:Margotbean|margotbean]] ([[User talk:Margotbean|talk]]) 15:38, 16 July 2026 (UTC) | |||
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Standardization of sources in items pages
Usually the fisrt paragraph in any item page is where it can be obtained, some items only have 1 source while other have 10+, those with many sources result in a vey confusing and slow to read paragraph making it very hard to find each specific source. In some pages, the sources are in a list from (e.g. Red Mushroom), while others are not (e.g. Emerald). I think the list format is much better and, in my opinion, should be the standard for items with many sources. I am open to work on this standardization if you agree with me Klytos (talk) 18:36, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- My goodness, you do like to jump from one project to another! In this case, items with few sources are listed in paragraph form, and when the paragraph gets too long or cumbersome, a list format can be adopted. There is no need to apply a standard to all pages without regard to content! Thank you, margotbean (talk) 19:06, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
Redirect pages
Hello Margotbean! I recently noticed that the farm maps redirect pages were really inconsistent, you could be redirected to the beach farm accesing "Beach Farm" but not "Beach Farm Map", and you couldn't be redirected to the hilltop farm accesing "Hiltop Farm", only "Hilltop Farm Map". In this example, some farm maps were only redirected if the page had "Map" in it and some if it didn't. To fix that I added redirect pages for all farm types with both "Map" in the title and not, adding the missing ones, only to be reverted by you.
Presented my argument could you please give a second thought on the pages? Maybe leaving only the ones without "Map", or with it, you decide. Thank you for your time Klytos (talk) 22:48, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
Removed note on Crab Pot page.
You removed a note on the crab pot page without proper justification. There is no possible way to cite the precise amount of time taken, as it is highly variable depending on various ingame conditions.
I will restore it in 24 hours if you don't have a compelling reason not to.
I also kinda wanna note that the majority of current citations are either completely useless(because they don't actually reference anything the average player can access) or actively inaccurate, because various ingame conditions modify them. That being said, I did actually test the crab pot time ingame with 230 crab pots, and averaged around 40 extra minutes(compared to 90 normally).
The entire wiki's citation method needs a serious rework.
DemiserofD (talk) 21:18, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- The note consisted of advice-giving and was inappropriate to add in the first place. margotbean (talk) 02:21, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
Asking Questions
Hello, this is Jae Yoon Park.
I have a question to you.
On March 5th, 2025, Magma Sparker(Korean Page) was changed by you, and I tried to contact to you for a reason why it was changed.
To be exact, just to hear the reason. No anger, no conflict, not seeking fights.
Just asking questions.
Since I really love this game so I could give some hands for wiki pages especially Korean page.
But my work was not applied some works. Like changing gif file to none.
Was it the file size taking too much on it? or was it un nessesary for doing it? or was it some reason that needed to be change because of bug?
If you change some work without saying, I don't know which one should I change, improve or cautionus other pages.
With sincerely, Jae Yoon Park.
In case of lost contact, here's my email number for it, jaeyoonpark.bba@gmail.com
xhaktm1226 (talk) 21:45, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
- Hello! Your change was reverted because it was inconsistent with the other monsters pages. The Magma Sparker page has an animated .gif for the Magma Sparker, and the variations use Template:Name, with static .png files.
- Going forward, just look at similar pages within a type (other monsters, other crops, other trees, etc.) to know how they should all look, and keep them consistent with each other. Thanks, margotbean (talk) 05:04, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
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Hello, margotbean, I have read your message, Thank you!
seeing other pages, and now I knew I should be careful with the consistency with other pages. Thank you for your kind explanation.
In my opinion, it would be nice to have a .gif file, but I agree your words with the consistency.
Once, I start editing other things, I might ask to you a lot of things to you or other admins for asking question.
it would be tiring some, but I would love to help.
Thank you, margotbean.
xhaktm1226 (talk) 22:56, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
Removed Meowmere info
Please explain why you reverted my edit to the Meowmere page. Not only did you remove information with no explanation, as though it were somehow self-evident why it should be removed, you also marked it as a minor edit, even though removal of information is not supposed to be labeled as a minor edit. -Jatopian (talk|contribs) 03:04, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
- Hello! The reasons the edit was reverted are:
- There is no punctuation, making the sentence a runon sentence
- The item has no relationship to the trivia bullet point it was added to
- The level of detail in describing the projectiles is excessive for the SDV wiki
- As for why the reversion was marked as minor: Mediawiki did that automatically. We are upgrading the mediawiki version, which should correct the problem. margotbean (talk) 17:24, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
Permission as a regular user
Hi, I finished translation of the section "Fish size and quality" from English to German. The wiki won't allow me to publish it, because the edit size is too big: "Mass edit by new user". I can't post it on my user page either for preview. Thanks -- Vad (talk) 21:34, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
- Hello, please read Help:Editing#New Editor Restriction. Thank you, margotbean (talk) 00:05, 7 March 2026 (UTC)
Wild Trees
The Mossy Seed explicitly refers to what the wiki currently has named "Green Rain Trees" as "Wild Trees." Since this is the canonical name for the trees, why was the page "Wild Tree" deleted? --NotAHamster (talk) 18:14, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
Ah I see, Tree Fertiliser also refers to all non-fruit trees as "wild," and this would overload the terms. Still, while Green Rain Tree is appropriately descriptive it's still an odd discrepancy where you might come to the wiki looking for information on "wild trees" but then find that this term doesn't exist here. Should a redirect/disambiguation page not be created? --NotAHamster (talk) 17:13, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Enchantment Details
My edits (new account, CouldBeAHamster, didn't remember this username until after making those edits) adding information on enchantments to the watering can page are not adding any unnecessary detail, and information on tool upgrades is already duplicated from the Blacksmith page. For consistency shouldn't each tool page either not contain that information (about tool upgrades and prices) covered by the Blacksmith page, or also cover the information about which enchantments can be applied to it which is only present on the Forge page?
Regardless, there should surely be at least a reference to the Forge's enchantment functionality in the opening paragraphs informing a viewer that each tool can be enchanted at the forge, so that one is informed about all pertinent information about a tool on its page. --NotAHamster (talk) 18:14, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
Seaweed edit
Greetings, I have a question about your partial removal of my edit on the Seaweed page. Was there any particular reason for it? The order of the Crab Pot fish was changed to fit the in-game order of the fishing list (while minor, that made it consistent with the Fish page which keeps the tables ordered that way. Not worth an edit on its own, but while I was at it...). And the Tip section at the bottom is present on many other pages - acquiring resources like Stone, or items like Dwarf Scrolls. If Tips on item acquisition are not up with wiki policy, should those be removed as well? BridgeSeller (talk) 09:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
Inconsistent formatting for regrowable crops
Hi margotbean, for regrowable crop pages, such as the Ancient Fruit page, or the Strawberry page, or the Cranberries page, the formatting in the opening sentence is inconsistent. For example, the Ancient Fruit page reads "Thereafter, the mature plant yields another Ancient Fruit every 7 days", whereas the Strawberry page does not include a sentence about regrowability, whereas the Cranberries page includes this information after a comma, phrased as "and keeps producing fruit every 5 days after maturity."
I believe the wiki should have some consistency here. I'm happy to agree on a format, and then it can be changed for every regrowable crop page. Thanks, Swift To The Core (talk) 01:32, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good idea. You can choose the formatting. Have a think about what would sound best, and then go for it. Thank you! margotbean (talk) 19:41, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
Undoing edits
I've noticed that you tend to undo all edits that displease you instead of fixing their errors or providing good reason. I don't understand why you have been so adamant against every single edit I have made. I try to add advice, you remove it for a nonsensical reason. I add additional information about combat on the Skills page to keep it in line with the other skills + other mentions of the combat skill and you revert it with no reason at all. I try to clarify false information about a bug (which currently states in absolutes that it "will" occur despite my own experience proving otherwise), and you revert it saying that the point lacks citations, but do not remove the point entirely for the same reason or even correct its grammatical errors. My edit of the point only changed "will" to "may" to make room for exceptions and restructured the sentences; your insistence on keeping the previous, incorrect revision comes off as very petty.
I understand it must be hard being the sole moderator on a big wiki - I have been staff on five - but this feels unnecessarily hostile and frankly, targeted, especially when I can see from your previous talk pages that this kind of conduct has discouraged multiple other editors in the past. Having every single one of my edits combated on my very first day on the wiki, even if one of them was partially conceded, certainly doesn't compel me to contribute any more. I don't believe it's a good idea for any wiki to have only a single person at the helm making every decision on their own and I hope the wiki will take on additional staff in the future instead of being entirely shaped by the vision of one person. PeculiarFairies (talk) 19:21, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
Fish capitalization
I'm sorry, what do you mean by "Most pages list the fish in lowercase"? From what I can tell by searching, say, Anchovy, dominant majority of mentions are capitalized. The main Fish page (or Fishing) has no lowercase fish names from what I can tell. Many Quest sections on Fish pages list them capitalized already. The Smallmouth Bass has both capitalized and non-capitalized versions in there after you reverted my edit - so is either correct? If so, why the revert? If not, why not correct the capitalized version? In-game the fish names are always capitalized when a specific fish is mentioned (the only exception is a different-species Fish Pond message, and even that one isn't without an exception of its own!). What? Capitalizing fish names is consistent with most items being capitalized, and most fish mentions on the wiki are already capitalized. Please do not ignore this message. Please provide the many pages listing fish uncapitalized. Please. BridgeSeller (talk) 20:59, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hello! I looked at the Quests section of several pages (Carp, Albacore, Eel, Pufferfish, Catfish) and saw them in lowercase. I thus concluded that you were introducing inconsistency.
- If you wish to make a complete survey of capitalization on fish pages, and then introduce complete consistency, you are welcome to do so. However, it probably won't stay "perfect" and will take more time than it's worth. It's up to you, with my blessings. margotbean (talk) 00:25, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- I do plan to do so then. I've taken a look at most generally fish-related articles, as well as specific-species pages, and they seem to prove my point. As for "imperfect" and "impermanent" - there aren't any big upcoming changes fish pages will go through. If one is added with an update, whoever changes it will most likely capitalize it, following all other examples around. It's hard to step away from the standard. As a note, I'll be enacting the following changes for every fish's species page. From Pufferfish to Oyster.
- a) Every mention of a fish as an item will be capitalized (most, practically all already are). I will obviously not modify the direct quotes or descriptions from the game. Mostly just affects the "Quest" section.
- b) "Map" section: the wording used will be "The (fish) can be found ..." (keeping as is, adding "The" if it's missing). Some fish don't have "The" there, but most do, and I think it fits the species-wide description.
- c) I'll be adding "to be caught" to the Fishing lines in the "Quest" section. As it is written now, the same as Item Delivery quest, it's ambiguous and doesn't state the fish actually have to be caught for the quest. Aquatic Overpopulation, on the other hand, mentions it outright and has the same quest mechanics in-game. Makes it more clear as a whole. See Largemouth Bass#Quests for an example.
- Since the new user mass-edit restriction applies to talk pages as well for some reason, this one will be split. BridgeSeller (talk) 16:46, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- d) For fish it applies to, "It/(fish name) can also randomly be found in Garbage Cans during (seasons), or at the Traveling Cart for (price).". Mix-and-match depending on the other methods of acquisition, but what can you do? (Yes, this part is already present for most fish, but not all.)
- Normally I wouldn't describe standardization in such details, but it seems to be a good idea in this case, such as too prevent ~70 edits from being reverted. If you have any notes on the changes above or your own ideas on which standards should be introduced, please voice them here. I'll be moving on with the changes after receiving your feedback or in 2-3 days regardless.
- Sidenote: I would appreciate a response to the Seaweed section-question above. I understand your lack of time, and amount of energy required to patrol the wiki, but providing general guidelines for what can (not) or should (not) be present on the wiki (as well as style and criteria for such) might free up more time in the future, as editors will actually have rules to follow. Even if you have to point to some archived talk page you wrote up five years ago. Even if you just say "be more like Page1 and less like Page2_reverted_edit" ten times. BridgeSeller (talk) 16:48, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- All sounds fine, thank you for the note (x2)! As for seaweed, how is it that the Training Rod cannot catch anchovy, sardine, or herring on sunny days? margotbean (talk) 20:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- While my original edit lacked the fact it was specific to Summer days, I corrected it once I noticed I missed it. Summer Ocean has no fish catchable by Training Rod. Hence the only catchables are Trash items, Seaweed and Sea Jelly. It boosts the Seaweed output heavily compared to average fishing with other fish available (and at no effort or bait expense). Quite handy if you're planning on building a number Fish Ponds. BridgeSeller (talk) 21:49, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- All sounds fine, thank you for the note (x2)! As for seaweed, how is it that the Training Rod cannot catch anchovy, sardine, or herring on sunny days? margotbean (talk) 20:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
Add Redirects for "Seed Spots" and "Artifact Spots".
I've noticed that most of the Stardew Valley Expanded Wiki uses "Artifact Spots" instead of "Artifact Spot". Would it be wiser to redirect it on the main wiki, or should it just be changed on the SVE Wiki? Makerman991 (talk) 01:14, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hello! I dislike redirects because they confuse translators and because people invariably link to the redirect instead of the actual page. (Depending on the redirect, this may be a little or wildly inappropriate.) So, no redirects on the main wiki, thanks! margotbean (talk) 03:37, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
Infoboxes for Desert Trader Furniture
Hi, I've noticed that the infoboxes on pages for furniture that can be purchased from the Desert Trader, such as Dark Piano, Birch Double Bed, or Butterfly Hutch do not include the price of these items in the infobox, and only have it hidden within the text of the page where it is more difficult to read. However, other pages like the Warp Totem: Desert include the price in a format of "Desert Trader for
Iridium Bar (10)"
I propose this should be the standard for all items purchased from the Desert Trader. This formatting already applies to Island Trader furniture items, such as the Tropical TV and the Tropical Double Bed. I would be happy to make the changes, just let me know what you think. Swift To The Core (talk) 06:01, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, fine idea! margotbean (talk) 07:00, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Island Trader Icon
Hi margotbean (again!), I was just going through the Island Trader pages and trying to create some consistency in the Source(s) section of the infoboxes, because some had a little icon for the Island Trader and some did not.
Have a look at the Sources section on the Banana Pudding page and compare it to the Deluxe Retaining Soil page. One has the little Island Trader icon, and one doesn't. I was going through and removing the icon for pages that had it, but now that I've had a moment to think about this, I actually think it looks better with the little icon.
Let me know what you think, because I was thinking perhaps every page could include this icon, and it might even be nice to have a little icon for the Desert Trader item pages as well. Thanks, Swift To The Core (talk) 12:18, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hello again! I think the icon looks better too. The Desert Trader icon is larger, and may run into the icon for the trade item (vertically); try it out and see if you like it. margotbean (talk) 12:46, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Bookseller Face Icon
Hi margotbean, I apologise for uploading the Bookseller Face Icon without explaining why it was uploaded. I put it in the infoboxes for all of the book pages in the Source section next to the word "Bookseller". I thought it looked quite nice, just wondering your thoughts on this. Swift To The Core (talk) 15:29, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Island Trader find-and-replace
Hi margotbean, could you please do a find and replace across the wiki, turning "
Island Trader" into "
Island Trader" as I have recently learned it is the better formatting option. Thanks! Swift To The Core (talk) 05:37, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
Catalogue Trivia
Hi margotbean! Would it be appropriate to include the piece of trivia present on the Catalogue page, ie "This is one of the few items in the game that is spelled using British English instead of American English (where the -ue ending would be dropped, becoming catalog)." on all catalogue pages, such as the Trash Catalogue and the Retro Catalogue, or is it best just left exclusively on the basic Catalogue page as it is? Thanks! Swift To The Core (talk) 12:01, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
- The trivia could probably be removed from the existing page. margotbean (talk) 23:26, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
Villagers Schedule Formatting
Hey Margotbean! Recently while playing I checked the schedule from the villagers a bit more often and it got a bit confusing sometimes to either check for the season first and then for the day, and on some pages there isn't a season indicator first but rather the specific days. Is there a reason for this? If there isn't, I would like to format it in a way, that every schedule page for the villagers is the same. I do like the format with the seasons first and then sort it. Greetings! Milaral (talk) 21:40, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hello! Villagers whose schedules vary by season have seasonal headings, villagers whose schedules don't vary by season have all green headings. margotbean (talk) 23:25, 16 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the Info! I'll do the same format on the german pages then, they need to be updated nonetheless. Milaral (talk) 07:51, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
- The German wiki could use some loving attention! margotbean (talk) 11:51, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the Info! I'll do the same format on the german pages then, they need to be updated nonetheless. Milaral (talk) 07:51, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
Additional Tool Resource
Howdy! I'd like to respectfully request that my Stardew farm planning tool be considered for listing among the others on Stardew Valley Wiki#Resources. The planner was built to work seamlessly on both mobile and desktop, and since millions of Stardew players play on consoles or mobiles, often without easy access to a desktop, it would be wonderful if they could discover my tool that is accessible and friendly to mobiles. It is a passion project I have worked on for over half a year, it is highly accurate to the game itself and has enourmous amounts of polish, completely ad-free and free to use.
You can access and evaluate it here: StardewPlan.com -- Please feel free to remove the link after viewing as this is not intended to be spam. Happy to answer any questions! --Yooks (talk) 07:10, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
Catalogue furniture page consistency
Hi margotbean! I've noticed an inconsistency across furniture item pages. Some pages (like Wizard Table) include the 0g cost in the opening line, while others (like Wizard Bed) don't. Since the majority of pages include the cost, I believe that's the correct standard. Could you please do the following text replacements to standardise the catalogue furniture pages?
[[furniture]] available from the [[Wizard Catalogue]]. → [[furniture]] available from the [[Wizard Catalogue]] for {{Price|0}}.
[[furniture]] available from the [[Joja Furniture Catalogue]]. → [[furniture]] available from the [[Joja Furniture Catalogue]] for {{Price|0}}.
[[furniture]] available from the [[Junimo Catalogue]]. → [[furniture]] available from the [[Junimo Catalogue]] for {{Price|0}}.
[[furniture]] available from the [[Retro Catalogue]]. → [[furniture]] available from the [[Retro Catalogue]] for {{Price|0}}.
Thanks! Swift To The Core (talk) 14:09, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
Ingredients Short List not updated
Hi margotbean, I'm not sure how high of a priority this is, but the IngredientsShortList on your user page (which I am unable to edit, because it is not my user page) is out of date and does not include any of the new required ingredients for crafting recipes, cooking recipes, and story quests as of 1.6.
I'm not sure if this would be an important problem with the wiki, since that page probably isn't very known about anyway, but I thought I would flag it to you regardless! Thanks, Swift To The Core (talk) 05:57, 18 April 2026 (UTC)
Autopetter from Dangerous Dust Sprite
I’m currently playing the game and was using the dangerous mines to complete my monster slayer goal, while killing 3 dust sprites, one dropped an autopetter, I came onto here to see if that has been noted as a mob drop for dangerous dust sprites and it has not. If you need evidence, I have a video of it dropping.
I play on the Nintendo Switch Lite, and have it updated to the newest version. I’ve never gotten an autopetter outside of the skull caverns or joja so I think it’s worth noting, however I’m not sure exactly how rare it is. Zmpb123 (talk) 02:54, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
- That's a special drop from a special monster, see The Mines#Special Items. margotbean (talk) 12:54, 3 May 2026 (UTC)
Challenge bait and any Legendry Fish II
Brother why did you reverse it back to Legendry ? The Wiki itself is saying they're from the Legendry II type (if you seen Fishing page) and you make it back to Legendry ? Just say it to me why? AhmedGR (talk) 10:51, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- Lengendary Fish II is not an actual in-game title, it's a heading someone came up with for the fish page. The link takes users to the correct section, so it's fine. Also, it's "Legendary", you keep forgetting the "a". Thanks for your comment, margotbean (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
Legendary Fish
Ok, am so Sorry about my Rudeness and I won't do it again if it hurts but can you explain why in the wiki it says that you can catch legendary fish only once ? Like there is no exceptions about using challenge bait and if you can edit it to add this exception AhmedGR (talk) 10:13, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
- I accept your apology, thanks. It's true, you can catch legendary fish only once. You may reel in 3 fish at one time by using challenge bait, but you can only hook and reel in (i.e., catch) a legendary fish one time. margotbean (talk) 14:09, 14 May 2026 (UTC)
Fish pages
Greetings! Haven't heard from you in a month, hope you've been well!
I'm fairly certain I've ran the standard of fish pages by you earlier. For example, d) For fish it applies to, "It/(fish name) can also randomly be found in Garbage Cans during (seasons), or at the Traveling Cart for (price).". It's what is used for most pages. It's easier to understand, as "Can be found at X, or Y under certain conditions" can be misinterpreted to mean both X and Y have conditions, as opposed to "Can be found at Y under certain conditions, or at X", which is clear as day.
I can create my own talk page in case you'd want to leave a helpful comment there before reverting all the edits you've approved. Seriously, it'll save a lot of work. Respectfully, BridgeSeller (talk) 00:18, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
Ice cream stand
Sorry, I was about to revert that myself; in addition to what you said in your edit summary, I didn't realize I should make a bug report first. Thanks for fixing that, and sorry again! I'll be more cautious in the future. Ashen (talk) 16:15, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- No harm done, thanks for your comment! margotbean (talk) 16:52, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
Removed Edit
Hi Margotbean!
I made a small edit on Alex's page, and it was removed because the edit did't cite the release. You do a lot of work, and I'm sure this was easy to miss, but I never mentioned any release. I added to a sentence that did. I hope I don't come across as rude or petty, but just wanted to bring it up. Thanks for all you do! -- Lee The Penguin
- Hello! You could not know this, but the upcoming v1.6.16 and v1.7 may change the names of the data files. Some have already been updated, so saying the data files are named x, y, or z is likely to change. Please remember to sign your posts with 4 tildes! Thanks, margotbean (talk) 20:18, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
Bundles
Thank you for adding a direct link on the section in the Enchanter’s Bundle about the rabbits foot.
-Wildomight Wildomight (talk) 15:23, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
Can't edit Weather page
Hello, I'm running into an issue with a small edit to the Weather page being automatically blocked for "adding external links" despite my edit not adding any links at all.
I am attempting to clarify the wording in the little blurb describing how lightning rods function. The page currently says that "If Lightning Rods are placed anywhere on the farm, they have a good chance to intercept lightning strikes ..." and all I am attempting to change it to is "If Lightning Rods are placed anywhere on the farm, they have a chance to intercept lightning strikes regardless of where they are placed on the farm ..." because there is no guarantee that they will have a "good" chance of intercepting a lightning strike as that entirely depends on the number of lightning rods and how many have already intercepted a lightning strike that day.
The wiki automatically blocks the edit, saying:
Error: This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed.
Please read Help:Editing. Afterward, if you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do.
A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Adding external links
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. - Sm00thJa22 (talk) 22:33, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
- I've added the edit, margotbean (talk) 15:46, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
I appreciate that you have added the part about how they work "regardless of where they are placed on the farm" but I noticed that you changed the wording to say that they have a "very good chance" to intercept lightning strikes, which is not necessarily true and actually less accurate than the original wording. If, for example, there are many lightning rods on the farm and all but one of them have already intercepted a lighting strike that day, then there is in fact a very *poor* chance that the free lighting rod will intercept any lightning strikes. This is why I wanted to change the wording to simply say that "there is a chance to intercept lightning strikes", which is accurate without claiming anything about how good of a chance that is since the exact likelihood is already covered in detail on the Lightning Rod page: Lightning Rod#Chance to Intercept. Also, any idea why the wiki page still blocks a simple edit like this claiming that it is "adding external links" when no links at all are being added? - Sm00thJa22 (talk) 21:27, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
- "Very good chance" is the original wording, as it is a direct quote from ConcernedApe, thus the reason it's in quotes.
- Any edit to a paragraph or section containing an external link counts as an edit to an external link. margotbean (talk) 21:44, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. That is terribly unfortunate wording on the part of ConcernedApe. Would it still not be more accurate to simply change it to "there is a chance to intercept lightning strikes" which is factually correct instead of using a direct quote that is factually incorrect?
- I see now why the edit is blocked, because both this bullet point about lightning rods and the one above it about lighting not striking chests have references improperly embedded directly into the bullet points both linking to the same external reddit post by ConcernedApe. I noticed that this creates two identical entries in the references section at the bottom of the page, one of them being completely superfluous. I propose moving these external references to a single entry in the reference section where it belongs and referencing it using the proper "ref name=" tag in the two bullet points to keep the format in line with the rest of the wiki. I would do this myself but, as it involves external links, any edit I make involving them is blocked. - Sm00thJa22 (talk) 21:54, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
- I've made the changes, I think it's an improvement! Thank you, margotbean (talk) 15:38, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed, and thank you so much for all your help on this. I especially appreciate you upgrading the external links to point to the specific relevant parts of that reddit post! I'm glad we could make the wiki just a little bit better :) - Sm00thJa22 (talk) 19:49, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- I've made the changes, I think it's an improvement! Thank you, margotbean (talk) 15:38, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
- I see now why the edit is blocked, because both this bullet point about lightning rods and the one above it about lighting not striking chests have references improperly embedded directly into the bullet points both linking to the same external reddit post by ConcernedApe. I noticed that this creates two identical entries in the references section at the bottom of the page, one of them being completely superfluous. I propose moving these external references to a single entry in the reference section where it belongs and referencing it using the proper "ref name=" tag in the two bullet points to keep the format in line with the rest of the wiki. I would do this myself but, as it involves external links, any edit I make involving them is blocked. - Sm00thJa22 (talk) 21:54, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
Proficiency
Hi! Just joined but was looking at this and I noticed this: At skill level 0, each successful use of a Pickaxe, Axe, or Hoe costs 2 energy. Unsuccessful uses (e.g., attempting to chop a Large Log with the starter axe) cost 1 energy. Each cast of the Fishing Pole costs 8 energy, even if the cast fails (e.g., the fishing line does not land in water). The starter Watering Can uses 2 energy.
-Is there a way to group the water can with the other two energy usage tools? Or is it because the water can uses two energy regardless if u miss or not?, just wondering, bye! AcroCrafter (talk) 04:16, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
The Legend
Hey Margot da bean, I’m new and don’t wanna come off as mean, but I’m pretty sure that the legendary fish can be smoked, no? If I missed it somewhere pls inform me please, thanks! AcroCrafter (talk) 04:32, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
Yeah they can def be smoked, I have literally done that Big Chin Guy (talk) 19:16, 9 July 2026 (UTC)
Yup and it says it on the page Aero (talk) 22:25, 9 July 2026 (UTC)
Lost Books Spoiler
Hi Margot,, I saw on the lost books page you removed the hints from the n/a book but it still shows at the end of the page which makes it uneffective, hope you saw this did i miss something? thanks!! Aero (talk) 14:19, 9 July 2026 (UTC)
- The Books page provides a handy list of all books' text with spoilers in collapsable sections. margotbean (talk) 15:36, 9 July 2026 (UTC)
thanks margot!! Aero (talk) 22:25, 9 July 2026 (UTC)
Tree Fertilizer keeps working after a tree is fully grown
Hi! First time for me to suggest something. This is something I've actually tested myself for the purpose of growing Moss. Tree Fertilizer guarantees that an affected tree will gain a stage of growth every day, but the pages for Moss, Trees, and Tree Fertilizer don't clarify the fact that the effect of Tree Fertilizer remains in place after the tree is fully grown. My opinion is that one or more of those pages should include that information so that players can more effectively grow Moss. Robotbarracuda (talk) 06:28, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
- Hello and welcome! Your comment seems to indicate that (1) Trees continue to gain stages of growth past "fully-grown", and (2) The stage of growth continues to increase the chance that a tree will grow moss. But, neither of these things is stated on the wiki (that I know of). And so, (without consulting the code), it seems those things need to be elucidated before adding the info you're suggesting. margotbean (talk) 16:34, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! First thing, Trees (specifically the 5 tree sprites that can grow Moss) absolutely do continue to gain stages of growth past fully-grown, and this fact is stated on the page for Moss explaining the requirements for its growth. A fully-grown tree that can grow Moss, such as a Pine Tree, is at growth stage 5 on the day that it attains its full-sized sprite. The pages for both Moss and Trees state that there are an additional 10 growth stages after a common Tree has reached its full size, for a total of 15 growth stages (the last 10 growth stages have no in-game visual indication). In order to grow Moss, a Tree must be at least growth stage 14. Where Tree Fertilizer comes into the equation is in guaranteeing stages of growth over time. Without Tree Fertilizer, the chance for a common Tree to gain a stage of growth is 20%. This chance stays in place after growth stage 5, if no Tree Fertilizer is applied. The chance bumps to 100% if you slather a young Tree with Fertilizer. The point I'm trying to make here is that the effect of Tree Fertilizer stays in place after the Tree is fully grown, which means that the Tree is guaranteed to reach growth stage 14 on the 9th day following its transformation into its full size. Moss itself also has an effect on this because harvesting Moss from a Tree drops its growth stage back down to 10 or 11, requiring you to wait for it to reach stage 14 again before it can regrow the Moss. Again, the effect of Tree Fertilizer is still present for every part of this process, guaranteeing stages of growth every single day. This makes Tree Fertilizer a valuable resource for speeding up and making more consistent the process of growing and harvesting Moss. I think it would be beneficial for players and the overall completeness of the Wiki if any of the relevant pages included this as a strategy. You can actually test all of this yourself in-game like I did; If you use the Item ID Glitch to give yourself Pine Cones and Tree Fertilizer, you can plant them and apply the Fertilizer, then wait. Just clear some farm space and leave most of the Trees alone that were present when you began the save file. Once you reach Spring 16 (if you planted on day 2 of Spring) about 10% of the Trees you slathered with Fertilizer should grow some Moss, while almost none of the rest of the Trees in the valley will have Moss on them. Let me know if there's a piece of this process that you have any questions about. Robotbarracuda (talk) 08:25, 15 July 2026 (UTC)
Page Creation
Hi there,
There's a number of redirects I'd like to create to make the wiki's browsing experience more fluid, but whenever I try making a new page, I'm hit with this message:
Error: This action has been automatically identified as potentially harmful, and therefore disallowed.
A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: New user created redirect
I attempted to bypass this error by creating a blank page first and then editing redirect code into it, but while I succeeded in creating an empty page, attempting to turn it into a redirect resulted in the same error. My account is over two years old and autoconfirmed, so I'm not a "new user" in any standard sense. Does an account have to be explicitly whitelisted to create new redirects? User:Gold Meddle 16 July 2026
- Hello! Unnecessary redirects are undesirable because eventually pages link to the redirect instead of the source page. They create a snarled mess that translators find difficult to navigate. Thanks for your comment, margotbean (talk) 15:38, 16 July 2026 (UTC)